British Armoured Divisions

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Gary Kennedy
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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby Gary Kennedy » 13 Jul 2017 16:24

I don't know those dates are wrong, I just meant that Joslen only begins his study from Sep39 so couldn't say how long those appointments had been held before then. Thought I'd have a look through something other than Joslen and this is from "Churchill's Desert Rat 2" by Patrick Delaforce. It's in his description of the changes by Hobart to the Mobile Division following his arrival in Egypt in Sep38.

Heavy Brigade (Lt-Col HRB Watkins)
1st and 6th Bns, RTR

Light Armoured Brigade (Brig HE Russell)
7th Hussars
8th Hussars
11th Hussars

Pivot Group (Lt-Col WHB Mirrlees)
3RHA
F Bty, 4RHA
1 Bn KRRC

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby yantaylor » 13 Jul 2017 16:43

Bloody hell Gary I'am miles out with my commanders

The Light Armoured Brigade (3rd March 1939)
Commander:
Brigadier H.F. Russell (3rd September 1939)
Units:
7th Hussars
8th Hussars
11th Hussars

The Heavy Armoured Brigade (3rd March 1939)
Commander:
Lieutenant Colonel H.R.B. Watkins (3rd September 1939)
Brigadier J.A.L. Caunter (1st November 1939)
Units:
1st Royal Tank Regiment
6th Royal Tank Regiment

The Pivot Group (3rd March 1939)
Commander:
Lieutenant Colonel E.S.B. Williams (22nd January 1940)
Units:
3rd Royal Horse Artillery
'F' Battery 4th Royal Horse Artillery
1st Kings Royal Rifle Corp

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby Gary Kennedy » 13 Jul 2017 18:00

They look about the same to me!

Gary

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby yantaylor » 13 Jul 2017 22:09

Sorry I should have said dates.

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby yantaylor » 14 Jul 2017 14:34

Right then, I had enough time today [working very hard of late] to look though Andy's data a found the dates I needed;

Light Armoured Brigade [Egypt] (3rd September 1939)
Commander:
Brigadier H.F. Russell (3rd September 1939)
Units:
7th Hussars
8th Hussars
11th Hussars

Heavy Armoured Brigade [Egypt] (3rd September 1939)
Commander:
Lieutenant Colonel H.R.B. Watkins (3rd September 1939)
Brigadier J.A.L. Caunter (1st November 1939)
Units:
1st Royal Tank Regiment
6th Royal Tank Regiment

The Pivot Group (3rd September 1939)
Commander:
Lieutenant Colonel E.S.B. Williams (22nd January 1940) apparently this officer was just acting commander, I wonder who he replaced?
Units:
3rd Royal Horse Artillery
'F' Battery 4th Royal Horse Artillery
1st Kings Royal Rifle Corp

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby yantaylor » 21 Jul 2017 14:34

Hi Andy, do you have any info on the commanders of the Canadian 5th armoured brigade and 11th infantry brigade during the second world war please.

Regards
Yan.

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Re: British Armoured Divisions

Postby yantaylor » 23 Jul 2017 19:51

Did I ever ask you guys if you knew if the British 1st cavalry division used the same "fox mask" insignia that was used by the 10th armoured division?
I know that the 1st cavalry formed into the 10th AD, so did they also use the same insignia?
I asked the Imperial war museum about this and they never got back in touch.

Regards
Yan.


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