Fleet Air Arm losses 1939-45

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Fleet Air Arm losses 1939-45

Postby sanpifer » 12 Nov 2017 20:10

Hi,

This is my first message in this great forum.

I would study the losses of Fleet Air Arm from 1939 to 1945, but I can't access to detailed sources (books or Internet sites).

For example, I cannot establish how many aircraft were lost inside british carriers.

I know that:

HMS Courageous sank on 17 September 1939 with two squadrons (811 and 822 Sqdn FAA) of Fairey Swordfish aircraft aboard (24 planes), including 36 RAF service crewmen.

HMS Glorious sank on 8 June 1940 with at least 4 Squadrons aboard:
- 6 Swordfish (823 Squadron) and 9 pilots lost.
- 10 Gladiators (263 RAF Squadron) and 10 pilots lost.
- 6 Sea Gladiators (802 Squadron) and 8 pilots lost.
- 7 Hurricanes (46 RAF Squadron) and 8 pilots lost.
41 RAF ground personnel, and 18 were pilots lost their lives.
Some sources says carrier sink with 43 aircraft in all, but that numbers don't match with above 29 aircraft losses.

HMS Ark Royal losses at sinking are unknown.

HMS Eagle was sunk at Pedestal with 16 Sea Hurricane aboard.

HMS Hermes didn't transport any aircraft aboard when she was bombed by japanese naval bombers. All her aircrafts were at land bases.

HMS Audacity 3 Martlets on deck when she was torpedoed at HG-76 convoy. Previously, 1 Martlet was lost when it attacked U-131.

HMS Avenger was sunk at Atlantic on 15 September 1942 transporting 802 and 883 Squadrons with their 12 Sea Hurricanes and pilots.

HMS Dasher losses at internal explosion time are unknown.

802 Squadron had a unfortunate history. 802 Sqdn was aboard Glorious when she was shelled. Later, 802 Squadron suffered new losses aboard Audacity and Avenger when both carriers were torpedoed again. An unluckly career.


To be continued.....
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Re: Fleet Air Arm losses 1939-45

Postby sanpifer » 12 Nov 2017 20:46

About victories/losses of Fleet Air Arm, we know that:

Total claims of Fleet Air Arm Squadrons amounted to perhaps 455 victories. The Fleet Air Arm produced 16 aces during the conflict.

In the final accounting, the Fulmar was credited with 122 kills. A total of 40 Fulmars were lost to enemy action. About 16 of these were in air-to-air combat. Only 3 Fulmars were lost to single-seat fighters. Most losses were incurred by the defensive armament of bombers.

In Fleet Air Arm service, Martlet/Wildcat pilots were credited with bringing down 54 aircraft to 4 losses (13.5 to 1): 11 Ju 88, 13 BV 138 ; 10 FW 200; 4 SM.79, 3 Me 109G; 3 Morane 406C; 2 Potez 63; and 1 each G.50, Z.506B, Re.2000, Bloch 174, He 111, He 115, He 177, Ju 290, and H6K. The FAA Hellcat pilots were credited with bringing down 5 aircraft to 1 loss (5 to 1): 2 He 115; 2 Me 109G; and 1 FW 190. The sole F6F loss was in the 8 May 1944 FW 190/Me 109 engagement. FAA F4F/FM's and F6F's, together then, had a score of 62 aircraft shot down with 5 losses (12.4 to 1).

Royal Navy Hellcats, known as Gannets, scored 52 kills: On 8 May 1944, 2 Me 109 and a Fw190 were downed. They also got 2 He 115 seaplanes on 14 May. The remaining kills were scored in the Pacific. 19 of the victories took place during the invasion of Okinawa.

At the end of the war, 18 FAA squadrons were operating the Corsair. In all, out of 18 carrier-based squadrons, 8 saw combat, flying intensive ground attack/interdiction operations and claiming 47.5 aircraft shot down.

I didn't know total kills/losses numbers for Sea Gladiator, Sea Hurricane, Seafires, Martlets (British Wildcat) in Europe/Pacific theaters.

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Re: Fleet Air Arm losses 1939-45

Postby sanpifer » 15 Nov 2017 02:08

Some sources says que HMS Audacity only had 3 Martlets aboard at the night that she was torpedoed. The fourth Martlet was lost previously by U-131. Usually HMS Audacity took on deck 6 or 8 fighters. Only survived two pilots from 802 Squadron (Osprey's book says that survived five airmen).


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