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Re: Id. british gun

Post by nuyt » 13 Jan 2021 21:30

Sturm, this is the lone 6inch Aussie gun on Timor at Koepang in early 1942.

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jan 2021 16:57

Hi all,

Returning to my question raised the on 18 Mar 2020, I have found this photo of a similar weapon in the Vickers Barrow museum web page
According to the caption it is a 10inch bomb thrower and the buyer would be Japan.

I guess it would be for an ASW weapon to launch depth charges at a certain distance....
Any additional image and/or information about the weapon or the ships that mounted it, will be welcome

I also found another photo (image 2) of a similar weapon, but about which I did not find any information...Any idea ?

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by EwenS » 16 Jan 2021 17:52

The second one could be the British 7.5" ASW mortar from WW1. See here about two thirds of the way down the page.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMBR_ASW.php

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jan 2021 20:42

EwenS wrote
The second one could be the British 7.5" ASW mortar from WW1. See here about two thirds of the way down the page.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMBR_ASW.php
Hi EwenS. I think you are right. Thanks for the link... :wink:

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Oct 2021 10:57

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. The piece is a 152mm 6in 26 cwt howitzer but, Could somebody tell me when this image could had being taken ?
WWI or 1920s ?? I am not expert in uniforms...

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Nov 2021 21:54

Nobody ?

Well, here two images from Getty archive. Not a gun but....Can somebody identify this artillery ammo. 94mm 3.7in Vickers AA gun ammo ???

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by wwilson » 23 Nov 2021 18:36

3.7in AA ammo seems to fit with the photo description at Getty:
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19th October 1940: Men working on shell fuses at an anti-aircraft gun ammunitions dump. Shells are stacked according to fuse. Original Publication: Picture Post - 317 - A Gun Is Fired - pub. 1940 (Photo by Bert Hardy/Picture Post/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Nov 2021 21:03

wwilson wrote
3.7in AA ammo seems to fit with the photo description at Getty:
Well, Also It could be 4.5in 114mm AA gun ammo.... :roll: :roll:

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by EwenS » 24 Nov 2021 08:01

Second photo. Centre left is what looks like a leg from what looks like a 3.7” mobile mount. Land based 4.5” guns were in fixed mounts AFAIK.

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by wwilson » 24 Nov 2021 20:21

EwenS wrote:
24 Nov 2021 08:01
Second photo. Centre left is what looks like a leg from what looks like a 3.7” mobile mount. Land based 4.5” guns were in fixed mounts AFAIK.
Yep. And the ammunition for the 4.5" AA gun (separate cartridge and projectile) was around 3.4 feet long (likely a bit longer). The rounds shown in the photograph appear to maybe come up around the height of the waist of those men.

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Nov 2021 00:07

EwenS wrote
Second photo. Centre left is what looks like a leg from what looks like a 3.7” mobile mount. Land based 4.5” guns were in fixed mounts AFAIK
Thanks....EwenS...I had not noticed that detail

About the first image I'm still not sure between 3.7in or 4.5in rounds....

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by EwenS » 25 Nov 2021 15:05

wwilson wrote:
24 Nov 2021 20:21
EwenS wrote:
24 Nov 2021 08:01
Second photo. Centre left is what looks like a leg from what looks like a 3.7” mobile mount. Land based 4.5” guns were in fixed mounts AFAIK.
Yep. And the ammunition for the 4.5" AA gun (separate cartridge and projectile) was around 3.4 feet long (likely a bit longer). The rounds shown in the photograph appear to maybe come up around the height of the waist of those men.

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You sure about the separate ammunition for the 4.5" AA gun?

It was a weapon originally designed for the RN whose MK.I & III guns used fixed rounds. It was only from the Mk.IV introduced in mid 1943 for smaller ships like destroyers that it moved to separate ammunition. The Army version was the MK.II. Photo here of 4.5" mount using fixed rounds in 1941.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_4.5-in ... t_1941.jpg

A complete 4.5" round was about 49" long and weighed about 87lbs (HE) with the 3.7" round being about 38" long. The RN split the shell and cartridge case due to the difficulty in handling the heavy round on the moving deck of a ship.

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Re: Id. british gun

Post by wwilson » 25 Nov 2021 17:56

@EwenS

Hey, you're correct! I misread the table on Tony Williams' website. So even longer than I estimated.

https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/ammotable12.html

I was looking for complete round length, but it didn't seem to be in Hogg's work on Allied artillery.

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