Italian hate thowards British

[Odilo88]

Hello, what was the reason of Italian- British hate in WW2?

It is still an open case, as I read last november 2021, a rapper singer desacrated Cassino British War Cemetery

[CogCalgary]

The aftermath of Monte Cassino had events which apparently did not appear in at least the American histories.Not positive whether the British mention this.They concern the conduct of North African troops which were allowed to do as they pleased to the local Italian population.Lupo Solitario had a few posts about this but I don't believe he had been active in some time

[Sheldrake]

I tried find what report this referred to. Searches threw up

The threat of a Christmas Market on the hill.
https://polimedia.press/world/suspect-o ... -arrested/

Graffiti in Commonwealth War Cemeteries in the Netherlands https://polimedia.press/world/suspect-o ... -arrested/

Daily Mule article about Jihadist graffiti on a Canadian War Memorial which quotes the son of a Monte Cassino veteran
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unday.html

I have been visiting the Cassino area for over fifteen years and work with several local guides. I am not aware of any particular animosity by the Italians against the British. The North African semi irregular Goums in the FEC were responsible for rapes in the Arunci region. These were under command of the US Fifth Army.

What is the original story?

[Odilo88]

It was a rapper who turned on a fire near the cemetery, shouting offense and singing shit among the graves, that in november 2021. i asked because rapper usually hate fascists. why hate dead "liberators"?

[Takao]

It was this...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unday.html

[Odilo88]

when we say ww2 was useless and we should fight against those criminals, everyone gangsta until the great generation kick them, Allies or Axis soldiers

[LineDoggie]

The aftermath of Monte Cassino had events which apparently did not appear in at least the American histories.Not positive whether the British mention this.They concern the conduct of North African troops which were allowed to do as they pleased to the local Italian population.Lupo Solitario had a few posts about this but I don't believe he had been active in some time

The North African troops were not US or UK forces but french, so why would they figure greatly in US or UK histories?

[CogCalgary]

The aftermath of Monte Cassino had events which apparently did not appear in at least the American histories.Not positive whether the British mention this.They concern the conduct of North African troops which were allowed to do as they pleased to the local Italian population.Lupo Solitario had a few posts about this but I don't believe he had been active in some time

The North African troops were not US or UK forces but french, so why would they figure greatly in US or UK histories?

Ok blame the French.If they were positively identified why were they not prosecuted?Rape is a serious offense.

[Odilo88]

The aftermath of Monte Cassino had events which apparently did not appear in at least the American histories.Not positive whether the British mention this.They concern the conduct of North African troops which were allowed to do as they pleased to the local Italian population.Lupo Solitario had a few posts about this but I don't believe he had been active in some time

The North African troops were not US or UK forces but french, so why would they figure greatly in US or UK histories?

Ok blame the French.If they were positively identified why were they not prosecuted?Rape is a serious offense.

An Italian friend explained that massacre in Cassino area, with Morocco perpetrators. The problem is when brave soldiers, who fought on the right or wrong side are hated after death. French did a mistake but why destroy their graves? Obviously such mess on British graves by a d*ckhead is unforgiveble

[LineDoggie]

Ok blame the French.If they were positively identified why were they not prosecuted?Rape is a serious offense.

Well yes you would blame the French since they weren't subject to the US Articles of war, they were under whatever France has for disciplinary rules/laws.

It would not be up to the US to indict or try French troops it would be up to the French chain of command to do so. As to why they weren't, well the attitude of their commanders says it all, it was thought a reward for hard fighting. God knows the US hanged men for rape in the ETO/MTO and as late as 1961 for Pvt John Bennet who raped an 11 year old girl and tried to murder her while stationed in Austria

[Loïc]

Contrary to it is usually said, French Officers didn't hesitate to summarily execute the rapists, around 29 Moroccans have been executed for rape, others cases identified by the French Provost/Gendarmerie were more fortunates to be presented to the Military Justice, even if these men came with the same behaviour of razzias from their north african military tradition, as noted some Historians such troops were ideal scapegoats, the Gendarmes of the Prévôté after investigations found several cases where instead of so-called Morrocans the rapists were troops of others nationalities, or germans and even italians, as in Savicelli 4th july 1944 where the Gendarmes identified US troops
to be fair in Italy as in Germany existed also a similar kind of 'black shame' spirit and propaganda consisting in victimization of the country and demonizing the non-whites allied troops, black US, indo-pakistani of the British Army, and north african especially the moroccan goumiers auxiliary troops who would have been allowed by the famous 'fake new' concerning the General Juin and his so-called carte blanche promise to free rein contradicted by the French Archives

[Sheldrake]

It was this...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unday.html

So this has nothing to do with antipathy towards north African rapists, but a rapper trying to promote himself by breaking some taboos.

[Takao]

It was this...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unday.html

So this has nothing to do with antipathy towards north African rapists, but a rapper trying to promote himself by breaking some taboos.

Exactly.