British - Request for Identification

[Matteus]

another one, George H. D'Oyly Lyon has taken over the command of the Nore from Admiral Reginald Drax.
just need confirmation, Drax left and Lyon right? - never saw one of them.

source: http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/resu ... width=1600

kind regards,
Matteus

[Andy H]

Hi

D'Oyly Lyon is the gent on the left.

Regards

Andy H

[Fatboy Coxy]

Is Drax missing teeth, or has some wag blacked out some of his teeth in this photo, like you do!

Steve

[Matteus]

hi Andrew and Fatboy Coxy, wondered about his teeth as well,

as for Admiral Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax (what a name, btw), i managed to find a pic:

http://unithistories.com/units_index/de ... sonsx.html

do you still think that the person on left is Lyon? - just as the pic on the Houterman site does have some similarities with the left admiral but are ID'd as Drax/Plunkett?

thanks for your efforts,

Matteus

[marcus rowland]

For several years my family has been trying to find out about this picture, which shows my late father Arthur Rowland (to right of centre) talking to a naval officer during WW2.



The picture is stamped as copyright the News Chronicle, and the Imperial War Museum believes that the officer is Admiral Sir Bertram Ramsey, who was Commander of Dover and responsible for the evacuation of Dunkirk. They also say that the helmet my father was wearing identifies him as a Stretcher Party Supervisor in the Civil Defence Services (aka ARP for Air Raid Precautions), which we did more or less know. He was in the ARP in London, I think throughout the war, and is possibly one of the sources for a story that Gerald Kersh wrote about the ARP - my father knew his publisher, and may have known Kersh although I'm not 100% sure about that. About the only thing I can add is that I think that the man on the extreme left has the words "Depot Supervisor" on his helmet, which to me suggests that the picture was taken at an ARP depot.

The trouble is that this picture was more or less forgotten until after both of my parents had died, and we have no idea when or where it was taken, or what the occasion for it was - records appear to be more or less non-existent, and so far the picture hasn't turned up in microfilmed archives of the News Chronicle at the British Newspaper Library in Colindale. It would be nice to know more. Our last surviving relative of that generation was my uncle, but unfortunately he spent WW2 in the Far East, and was as puzzled by this picture as we are.

There's some evidence that this was after October 1943. In this picture Ramsay has the rank insignia of a full admiral. During Dunkirk he was still a Vice Admiral. In the summer of 1942 he was promoted and sent to Gibraltar to plan for and later command the naval aspects of Torch. In October 1943 he came back to the UK as the Naval Commander for Overlord. He died on January 2nd 1945, so this is presumably 1943-4.

If anyone can shed any light on this, or suggest any sources we could try, I'd be grateful for their help. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who might know anything relevant. As noted above I've already tried the Imperial War Museum and the Picture Post archive, and I've just emailed the Civil Defence Association to see if they know anything.

Later edit - forgot to say that it would be interesting to know the identities of other people in the picture, if anyone recognizes anyone else.

[ttvon]

Hi,
Who are the two air generals in ww2?
Maybe they are from Canada, But I am not sure.

Source: Canada's war in colour

Ttvon
Best

[Matteus]

maybe George Brookes (1) and William Bishop (2)

[Frankfurter]

another one, George H. D'Oyly Lyon has taken over the command of the Nore from Admiral Reginald Drax.
just need confirmation, Drax left and Lyon right? - never saw one of them.

D'Oyly Lyon is the gent on the left.

Seems to be D´Oyly Lyon on the left, and perhaps his ADC to the right.

Did you all fail to look at the rank insignia? The bad-teethed guy certainly isnt Drax. First the man isnt an admiral, just a mere commander, and secondly he´s rather young, around 40. Drax was in his mid-60s at that time.

[ttvon]

Hi,
Who is the unknown Vice Admiral?
Thanks.

ttvon

[ttvon]

Hi,
This is a very famous pic. Sorry, I forgot the source. but we can search it on the internet.
Who is the British translator with Zhukov?
Thanks!

ttvon

[Saxon Cross]

Is it Hugh Lunghi?

[ttvon]

Hi,
Do you have any pic of Hugh Lunghi to compare them?

ttvon

[Steen Ammentorp]

Hi,

It is not Lunghi. He had a moustache in 1945, and btw. the officer has been id'ed as a RE officer, while Lunghi was RA.

[ttvon]

HI,
What are the mean "RE" and "RA"?
Thanks!

ttvon

[Steen Ammentorp]

Hi,

Sorry - Royal Engineers/Royal Artillery