Light Tank MKVI C

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by phylo_roadking » 19 Feb 2011 01:59

The only way to know would be to check each unit's war diary and monthly equipment count.

There's something else we should do; select a number of fixed mileposts and determine the location/allocation of MkVICs at each of them; so far some of us are working at a late 1940 date, some a Spring 1941 date, I was working on an early summer 1941 date....and some details for Malta in 1942 LOL
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 18 May 2011 21:49

Not sure if this has been posted, and no time to wade through thread:

7-10-41
44 RTR 7 Mk. VIc
8 RTR 6 Mk. VIc
4 RTR 7 Mk VI (3 Mk. VIc)
Ordnance 2 Mk. VIc under repair

Total 18 Mk. VIc

AA Light tanks 14 (1 under repair)

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The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Ricky2 » 01 Jun 2011 21:08

Any idea where those 14 AA tanks were? Which units, which geographical location?

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 01 Jun 2011 21:13

Nope. I would presume that they were with supply columns.
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by David W » 01 Jun 2011 22:03

I thought that they were attached to the Regimental HQ?

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 02 Jun 2011 06:54

I thought (and have seen pictures in line with that) that normal Mk.VI were with RHQs.
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by David W » 02 Jun 2011 08:03

OK JBond. Just to clarify, I was talking about thinking that the AA versions were with the RHQ.

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 02 Jun 2011 09:29

I understood that. :) I have read 'somewhere' that the AA were with supply columns, and the fact that they are not assigned to regiments in the list I provided would make me think that this is correct. Furthermore, the absence of any pictures of them with HQs is another (tiny) bit of evidence.
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by David W » 02 Jun 2011 10:08

No you are right. I only put forward the RHQ option tentatively.

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 10 Jun 2011 07:08

I have now come across a message in which 1 Armoured Division requests the return of three 'light AA tanks' with which its Division HQ arrived in North Africa in late 1941, and which were then handed over 7 Armoured Division for CRUSADER, 2 being with 22 Armoured Brigade, and one with 7 Armoured Division.
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by nmao » 31 Mar 2012 00:10

Hello.
At least two LIGHT TANK, AA Mk I. were used by the Div Cav Regt between late 1941 and mid 1942, according to this site:

http://antipodeanarmour.blogspot.pt/201 ... -mk-i.html

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 13 Oct 2012 17:27

Not sure if we have had this picture?

From IWM Collections. Note the date!
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 23 Jan 2013 13:23

Gents,

Further to the numbers of Light Tanks equipping ME units I found the following in 42 RTR WD for 15 Nov 41:
“F” Group comprising B.H.Q., with 2 “I” Tanks and 4 Light Tanks, “A” Sqn 16 “I” Tanks and one Light Tank, “B” Sqn 15 “I” Tanks and one Light Tank together with “A” Echelon transport move out in due west direction, double line ahead, at 1745 hrs, crossing the Start Line at 1800 hrs.
The following information is from a movement order dated 30 Dec 41:
A/A tanks will be allotted:-
1 to H.Q. “A” Ech.
1 to “HQ” “B” Ech.
Crews will NOT dismount at halts.
Leading A/A tanks will keep watch NORTH and EAST.
Rear A/A tanks will keep watch SOUTH and WEST.
Navigator. R.S.M.
Capt. J.R. Holliday is meeting the column at Pt. 212 and will guide it into leaguer area.
Open leaguer will be formed on arrival.
The following tasks will e completed by dusk 1 jan 42.
Slit trenched for all ranks.
1 A/A pit per Sqn.
Issue of clean clothing.
In leaguer A/A tanks are allotted:-
1 to “A” Sqn.
1 to “C” Sqn.
Crews will be found by these Sqns.
No other details of make, but at least some evidence of tactical employment for your delectation! :D

Regards

Tom

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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Urmel » 23 Jan 2013 14:03

Interesting, since by 30 December 42 RTR wasn't really at risk of any air attack anymore, while the 13 Corps forces around Agedabia could probably have used these AA tanks.
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Re: Light Tank MKVI C

Post by Tom from Cornwall » 23 Jan 2013 15:21

Hopefully this also helps,
WO169/1418 – 8th Bn Royal Tank Regiment – 1941

2 August 1941
Collected 2 Lt. Tanks Mk. VIC and 2 Mk IIA+ from R.A.O.C. WARDIAN for ‘BHQ’.

26 August 1941
5 Lt. Tanks were taken over from WARDIAN.
Does anyone know if the WARDIAN Depot produced any records that survived?

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Tom

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