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Thank you, Paul....and sorry for my late answer.
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Hi all,
Can somebody identify the exact variant of these vehicles ??
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Can somebody identify the exact variant of these vehicles ??

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Hi SturmSturm78 wrote:Hi all,
Can somebody identify the exact variant of these vehicles ??![]()
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They are somewhere in Australia. They appear to be British built vehicles as the Australian, Local Pattern carriers had lower front compartment and a wider radiator air intake above the bulkhead between the front and rear compartments. The top one is a Universal carrier MKII with a Vickers Gun mounted in the front, it has two crew compartments either side of the engine. The Vickers was a common fitting by the Australian divisonal cavarly regiments. The nearest one is a Scout Carrier MkI, only one rear crew compartment and it is on the right hand side.
Bren Carriers also only had one compartment but that was on the left and had slope to the rear. The MG Carrier No2 was very simliar to the Bren carrier.
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Thank you very much for your help, Clive
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Hi all,
Can somebody identify this vehicle ?? I suppose a variant of Light Dragon artillery tractor or a experimental prototype.
I think the gun is a polish 105mm Wz.29 so, I think it is polish vehicle
Image from the net (I do not remember the exact website)
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Can somebody identify this vehicle ?? I suppose a variant of Light Dragon artillery tractor or a experimental prototype.
I think the gun is a polish 105mm Wz.29 so, I think it is polish vehicle
Image from the net (I do not remember the exact website)
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Hello Sturm78
It's a Vickers-Carden-Loyd Artillery Tractor. Used by quite a few countries as well as UK. Pictures from Belgian and Chinese sources:-



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It's a Vickers-Carden-Loyd Artillery Tractor. Used by quite a few countries as well as UK. Pictures from Belgian and Chinese sources:-



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Thank yoy, GrumpyOldMan. It is quite complicated the issue of British artillery tractors of 1930s, due to the large number of models and prototypes....GrumpyOldMan wrote
It's a Vickers-Carden-Loyd Artillery Tractor. Used by quite a few countries as well as UK. Pictures from Belgian and Chinese sources

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Hi all,
I have seen 4 different gun mantlets on the turret of British Cruiser Tank Mk.IV ...but I only know two different variants: Mk IV and Mk.IVA
Any idea about this ??
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I have seen 4 different gun mantlets on the turret of British Cruiser Tank Mk.IV ...but I only know two different variants: Mk IV and Mk.IVA
Any idea about this ??

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The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
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Thank you for your answer, Clive.Clive wrote
The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
About the third image, I have seen also this gun mantle design in Mk.III tank models so...Is this tank also an upgraded Mk.III ???

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Nobody ??
Well, here another question. I need help to Id. this truck.. Leyland Retriever ???
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Well, here another question. I need help to Id. this truck.. Leyland Retriever ???
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Hi SturmSturm78 wrote:Thank you for your answer, Clive.Clive wrote
The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
About the third image, I have seen also this gun mantle design in Mk.III tank models so...Is this tank also an upgraded Mk.III ???![]()
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I don't know, it could be a MkIII upgraded or a MkIV. Photos one and fouer are of MkIVa as they have a BESA co-ax machine gun. MkIV and MkIII had a Vickers and this tank is armed with a Vickers. To be honest I don't think the crews knew either, it was a Cruiser tank.
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In order of posting, the 2nd and 3rd pictures are off the production line Mk.IV - not upgraded Mk.III; the 1st and 4th are off the production line Mk.IVa.Clive Mortimore wrote: The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
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Hi MarkMarkN wrote:In order of posting, the 2nd and 3rd pictures are off the production line Mk.IV - not upgraded Mk.III; the 1st and 4th are off the production line Mk.IVa.Clive Mortimore wrote: The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
I think you are incorrect, photo two is a re-worked MkIII. The MkIV did not have the boxed in mantlet. Photo three could be a re-worked MkIII or MkIV. Not all reworked MkIIIs had the boxed in mantlet as in photo two. The only way to tell if a vehicle without the boxed in mantlet was a MkIII or MkIV is by the slope of the front of the turret. In photo three we are looking head on to the front of the turret so no way can we tell. If the partially obscured census number is T 18121 then it is a MkIV.
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A total of 65 Mk.III were produced by Nuffield. They were allocated WD Nos. T-4385-4449Clive Mortimore wrote:Hi MarkMarkN wrote:In order of posting, the 2nd and 3rd pictures are off the production line Mk.IV - not upgraded Mk.III; the 1st and 4th are off the production line Mk.IVa.Clive Mortimore wrote: The different designs were upgrades as production progressed. The second photo is a MkIII cruiser that has been upgraded to MkIV standards, with spaced armour and a new cover over the mantlet.
I think you are incorrect, photo two is a re-worked MkIII. The MkIV did not have the boxed in mantlet. Photo three could be a re-worked MkIII or MkIV. Not all reworked MkIIIs had the boxed in mantlet as in photo two. The only way to tell if a vehicle without the boxed in mantlet was a MkIII or MkIV is by the slope of the front of the turret. In photo three we are looking head on to the front of the turret so no way can we tell. If the partially obscured census number is T 18121 then it is a MkIV.
A total of 64 Mk.IV were produced by Nuffield. They were allocated WD Nos. T-9096-9159
The second image is T-9153.
The third image is T-9121.
They are both Mk.IV and both served with the Queen's Bays and were lost in France in June 1940. The Queen's Bays took to France in May 1940 Cruiser Tanks Mk.Ics, Mk.II and Mk.IV. They did not take any Mk.III to France - modified/upgraded or not.
T-18121 was a Mk.IVa which only left the factory 6 months after that picture was taken.