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Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 03 Jan 2016 11:26

Does anyone have any suggestions for sources on the less that heroically named Haddocks? Regards.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Sheldrake » 03 Jan 2016 12:08

I donlt mean to appear rude, but did you use a search engine before postign yoiuyr question? There is a Wikipedia entry which refers to Richards, Denis (1974) [1953]. Royal Air Force 1939–1945: The Fight At Odds I (pbk. ed.). London: HMSO. ISBN 0-11-771592-1.

If you are after sources I would try :-

1. The National Archives Kew
2. The library and archives at the RAF Museum Hendon,
3. The RAF Historical section - if you have a serious academic interest

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Andy H » 03 Jan 2016 14:04

Attrition wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions for sources on the less that heroically named Haddocks? Regards.
Hi

There's some information in the following:-

The Whitley Boys (4 Group Bomber Operations 1939-40) by GL 'Larry' Donnelly Pg136-139 & Pg149

Bomber Command Reflections of War (Cover of Darkness 1939-May 1942) Vol I by Martin Bowman Pg49-51

Also Chris Ward has wrote a couple of books about RAF Bomber Command Groups and published by Pen & Sword, that may well contain some information.
Horne's & Terraine's information as detailed in the Wiki article is very basic.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 04 Jan 2016 03:03

Thanks, I thought they were a bit thin.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 04 Jan 2016 13:56

Sheldrake wrote:I donlt mean to appear rude, but did you use a search engine before postign yoiuyr question? There is a Wikipedia entry which refers to Richards, Denis (1974) [1953]. Royal Air Force 1939–1945: The Fight At Odds I (pbk. ed.). London: HMSO. ISBN 0-11-771592-1.

If you are after sources I would try :-

1. The National Archives Kew
2. The library and archives at the RAF Museum Hendon,
3. The RAF Historical section - if you have a serious academic interest
You're ignorant, not rude, I wrote that piece and added the source.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 04 Jan 2016 13:57

Does anyone have the Bomber Command history vol I?

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Sheldrake » 04 Jan 2016 19:36

Attrition wrote:
Sheldrake wrote:I donlt mean to appear rude, but did you use a search engine before postign yoiuyr question? There is a Wikipedia entry which refers to Richards, Denis (1974) [1953]. Royal Air Force 1939–1945: The Fight At Odds I (pbk. ed.). London: HMSO. ISBN 0-11-771592-1.

If you are after sources I would try :-

1. The National Archives Kew
2. The library and archives at the RAF Museum Hendon,
3. The RAF Historical section - if you have a serious academic interest
You're ignorant, not rude, I wrote that piece and added the source.
Sorry, but that wasn't clear either from your original post or the wikipedia page. There is an RAF Historic branch report on the 1940 campaign which might have something in more detail than appears in the Official History.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 04 Jan 2016 23:14

Thanks that's much more helpful.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Andy H » 08 Jan 2016 12:29

Attrition wrote:Thanks, I thought they were a bit thin.
Hi

Yes there thin but given this forces brief existence and actual operations, I doubt there's much else beyond minutiae.

Is there a specific element(s) of Haddock Force that your interested in or just the whole package as it were?
The Sqn records and individual personnel files/diaries held at various locals as suggested by Sheldrake will be your best bet.

You could contact Dr Ross Mahoney, who used to be a member on here some years back v(and now works at the RAF Duxford) but you can find him more on Twitter at @AirPowerHistory and ask him for some pointers!

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 08 Jan 2016 15:50

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddock_Force

I was hoping to add something to this.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Andy H » 10 Jan 2016 00:14

Hi
French Air Command made available the airfield outside Marseilles at Salon-de-Provence and another one nearby
The other one being Le Vallon
Another 36 Whitleys from 10 Squadron, 51 Squadron, 58 Squadron, 77 Squadron and 102 Squadron had refuelled at the advanced bases on Jersey and Guernsey and were on their way to Italy. Severe storms and icing caused the majority of the aircraft to turn back and only 13 reached their targets at Turin and Genoa; two aircraft failed to return
8 from 10Sqn, 7 from 51Sqn, 6 from 58Sqn, 8 from 77Sqn and another 7 from 102Sqn

34 planes flew from the Channel Islands, 2 failed to take off. 12 claimed to have bombed the Fiat works in Turin whilst 1 bombed the alternate target, Genoa. 20 planes aborted and one crashed (77Sqn) near Le Mans

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 10 Jan 2016 00:17

Thanks

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Sheldrake » 07 Feb 2016 01:56

Robert Jackson's Air War over France 1939-40 has a chapter, (no 10) on Franco Italian air operations.

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by Attrition » 07 Feb 2016 09:58

Thanks

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Re: Haddock Force

Post by JulianMHall » 24 Feb 2019 23:29

Hi,

My MA dissertation was on the bombing of Italy by the RAF in the SWW and I found some good information on Haddock Force, including the war diary - for the few days they were operational that is - at TNA; AIR 35/325.

Kind regards,

Julian

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