HMS Malines

Discussions on all aspects of the The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth during the Inter-War era and Second World War. Hosted by Andy H
User avatar
PT Dockyard
Member
Posts: 423
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 20:03
Location: Upstate NY

HMS Malines

Post by PT Dockyard » 23 Feb 2019 02:43

The Malines was a Channell ferry that was later modified as a "Convoy Escort." She was torpedoed off Egypt in 1942 and beached.

Can anyone provide details of her armament?

Image

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Malines_(1921)


Thanks
Dave G
The PT Dockyard

User avatar
Prosper Vandenbroucke
Member
Posts: 739
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 15:52
Location: Braine le Comte - Belgium

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » 23 Feb 2019 16:25

Hi Dave,
I didn't know if that ship had an armement:
http://www.tynebuiltships.co.uk/M-Ships ... s1921.html
Kindly regards
Prosper :wink: :wink:

User avatar
PT Dockyard
Member
Posts: 423
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 20:03
Location: Upstate NY

Re: HMS Malines

Post by PT Dockyard » 23 Feb 2019 17:05

From Wikipedia:
"In 1940 she was requisitioned by the Royal Navy and renamed HMS Malines. She was used as an auxiliary Convoy Escort Vessel. On 19 July 1942 she was torpedoed by German aircraft and beached near Port Said, Egypt"

It appears that she has gun positions aft. I would imagine she would need something if she was an escort, especially by 1942.

With this picture probably from her salvage it is likely the weapons were removed during the months between when she was beached and this time (January 1943).

Dave G

David Reasoner
Member
Posts: 193
Joined: 10 May 2009 03:15

Re: HMS Malines

Post by David Reasoner » 25 Jun 2019 17:37

FWIW, Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1922-46 and Navypedia both credit her with 1 x 4"/45 Mk.V QF. Her sister Antwerp mounted the same gun forward, plus 4 x 2-pdr AA.

http://navypedia.org/ships/uk/brit_aux_ce.htm

I'm guessing a similar scheme to Antwerp, with the 4" forward, and possibly one or more 2-pdr AA (or some other light AA weapon) in the gun tub visible aft in your photo.

David

User avatar
Urmel
Member
Posts: 4083
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 09:34
Location: The late JBond

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Urmel » 27 Jun 2019 08:05

No significant events?
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

User avatar
Sheldrake
Member
Posts: 2236
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 17:14
Location: London

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Sheldrake » 27 Jun 2019 11:34

Urmel wrote:
27 Jun 2019 08:05
No significant events?
There is more
Sister to ANTWERP and BRUGES, she was the last vessel built for the G.E.R. In May 1940 she was sent to Rotterdam to evacuate British civilians, under heavy bombing attacks by the advancing Germans she also collected the crew from the scuttled ST. DENIS and sailed unlit at night.

Impressed for the Dunkirk evacuation, she made two trips back to Dover and Folkestone with a total of 1469 troops, some rescued from the sinking destroyer H.M.S. GRAFTON. In June 1940 she took part in the evacuations from Cherbourg, Jersey and Guernsey to Southampton and Weymouth.

Requisitioned by the Admiralty in late 1940 and commissioned as a convoy escort H.M.S. MALINES, she sailed to the Mediterranean via the Cape. She operated as a troopship for much of the time. On 19 July 1942 she was torpedoed by German aircraft and beached near Port Said, but was refloated in January 1943 and transferred to the Ministry of War Transport, becoming a training ship at Kabret in early 1944.

Arriving back in the Tyne under tow in November 1945, she was laid up unrepaired and broken up at Dunston on Tyne in April 1948.
https://www.lner.info/ships/GER/malines.php

I think she was used as a troop transport to and from Tobruck, but it had fallen by the time she was torpedoed

Dili
Member
Posts: 2074
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 22:54
Location: Lusitania

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Dili » 28 Jun 2019 19:23

Any idea when she arrived to the Mediterranean?

User avatar
Andy H
Forum Staff
Posts: 14986
Joined: 12 Mar 2002 20:51
Location: UK and USA

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Andy H » 08 Jul 2019 21:53

Hi

Hope this helps.

"6/12/41-MALINES sailed from Capetown at 1253GMT for D.G. range and then H/A shoot leaving searched channel, sailing for Durban at 1650GMT

9/12/41-MALINES arrived at Durban at 1302GMT and departed for Mombasa at 2048GMT.

arrived Alexandria on 27/12/41 under Lt L N Mates RNR (http://www.unithistories.com/officers/R ... cersM.html for Lt Mates Bio)

from https://www.naval-history.net

Regards

Andy H

Dili
Member
Posts: 2074
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 22:54
Location: Lusitania

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Dili » 14 Jul 2019 03:39

Indeed it does. Thanks Andy.

User avatar
PT Dockyard
Member
Posts: 423
Joined: 29 Apr 2004 20:03
Location: Upstate NY

Re: HMS Malines

Post by PT Dockyard » 14 Jul 2019 13:42

Yes, Thank you. That is exactly what I was looking for.

Dave

mjmates
New member
Posts: 1
Joined: 08 Aug 2019 00:39
Location: Washington State

Re: HMS Malines

Post by mjmates » 08 Aug 2019 00:53

According to the account of the torpedo-bomber attack on HMS Malines, gunfire used against the attacking aircraft was two 2pdr pom-poms and two oerlikons. Wikipedia is in error on the date (it was 22, not 19 July) and the air force (it was two Italian Savoia Sparviero 79s, not Germans. I can send a copy of that report.
Regards,
Michael

clash01
New member
Posts: 1
Joined: 07 Nov 2019 16:37
Location: Dunston

Re: HMS Malines

Post by clash01 » 07 Nov 2019 16:45

Hi ive just joined as I was looking for some info on HMS Malines as I found headstone in my local cemetery .. when the ship was broken up here in my local town in 1948 two dead sailors where found... this is their headstone... https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenfitzpa ... 4/sizes/h/

Image

User avatar
Terry Duncan
Forum Staff
Posts: 5636
Joined: 13 Jun 2008 22:54
Location: Kent

Re: HMS Malines

Post by Terry Duncan » 07 Nov 2019 17:57


Return to “The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45”