US Half Tracks in British use

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Aber » 30 Oct 2019 11:11

yantaylor wrote:
29 Oct 2019 20:39
Hi Richard I put your points to the Colonel and he agrees with you and also said you can add Bradley to Hodges and Middleton.
By a process of elimination that makes him a Patton fan? :roll:

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Richard Anderson » 30 Oct 2019 15:20

Aber wrote:
30 Oct 2019 11:11
yantaylor wrote:
29 Oct 2019 20:39
Hi Richard I put your points to the Colonel and he agrees with you and also said you can add Bradley to Hodges and Middleton.
By a process of elimination that makes him a Patton fan? :roll:
:lol: Or a Simpson or Patch fan.
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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by yantaylor » 30 Oct 2019 16:13

No he has no time for Patton either.
Are both Simpson and Patch US Generals?

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by OpanaPointer » 30 Oct 2019 16:46

yantaylor wrote:
30 Oct 2019 16:13
No he has no time for Patton either.
Are both Simpson and Patch US Generals?

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Aber » 30 Oct 2019 19:26

Richard Anderson wrote:
30 Oct 2019 15:20
Aber wrote:
30 Oct 2019 11:11
yantaylor wrote:
29 Oct 2019 20:39
Hi Richard I put your points to the Colonel and he agrees with you and also said you can add Bradley to Hodges and Middleton.
By a process of elimination that makes him a Patton fan? :roll:
:lol: Or a Simpson or Patch fan.
What did Truscott do to you? :P

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Richard Anderson » 30 Oct 2019 22:05

Wrong theater.
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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Michael Kenny » 04 Nov 2019 06:03

yantaylor wrote:
21 Oct 2019 21:01
Great stuff lads thanks!

Love that picture by the way, can I use it?

It is here as a super-size pic
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item ... /205203253

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by yantaylor » 05 Nov 2019 21:44

Thanks Michael, but the swines at IWM won't let me have it without paying them cash.

Yan

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by yantaylor » 07 Nov 2019 13:12

I forgot to ask you chaps the other day about how the British field their Churchill Crocodile tanks.

I was compiling my Churchill Tank Squadron circa 1944 [thanks to your help of course], and wondered why the Troop HQ didn't have any Crocodile tanks to accompany their CS and ARV tanks.
I suppose that the Crocodiles would be organic to the 79th division, but did they parcell them out to Churchill squadrons?

Yan

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Gary Kennedy » 07 Nov 2019 20:57

For a long time there was only one Regiment equipped for the Crocodile role (141 RAC). They rejigged their organisation as a result of experience, and had three Sqns each with two HQ tanks (75-mm) , two CS tanks and four Tps; three of the Tps had four tanks and the final one only three. That gave each Sqn 15 Crocodile equipped tanks, and meant a Sqn could be run as two 'half Sqns', one such for each Rifle Coy in an Inf Bn with two Coys up.

141 RAC officially joined 79th Armd Div on 4th Sep 1944, coming under 31st Tk Bde, which became the home for the eventual three Crocodile equipped units.

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by yantaylor » 07 Nov 2019 21:37

Thanks Gary, so loking at your data, it seems like the Crocodiles didn't get placed in Churchill Squadrons and acted as Infantry support tanks attacking emplaced enemy positions.
The fact that they had two CS tanks at SHQ, shows that they didn't need the support of Churchill gun tanks.

Yan

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Re: US Half Tracks in British use

Post by Gary Kennedy » 08 Nov 2019 01:06

Crocodiles still had their main gun armament (75-mm) so could fire HE, AP, etc as any standard Churchill tank could, as well as flame.

Gary

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