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Id. warship

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Feb 2020, 00:04

Hi all,

Is this a Royal Sovereign class battleship ??
According to photo caption, taken in Spain

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 26 Feb 2020, 01:18

It might be HMS Revenge.

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Feb 2020, 22:18

Waleed wrote
It might be HMS Revenge.
Thanks for your answer, Waleed
I have tried to find information about HMS Revenge but I could not find anything about its presence in Spain during the Civil War.

How is it possible to distinguish between the Revenge and the rest of his sister ships ?

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 27 Feb 2020, 08:11

Have a look at the rear/ aft and compare to her sister ships.

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2020, 22:20

Hi Waleed,

It is possible that you are right. I am not expert on British warships...but I have found that HMS Royal Oak and HMS Resolution conducted non-intervention patrols during Spanish Civil War....

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Apr 2020, 12:22

Hi all,

Is this a G or H-class destroyer ?

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 10 Apr 2020, 19:03

This ebay site has her as the HMS Codrington
https://m.ebay.ie/itm/rp11735-Royal-Nav ... r=1&_rdt=1
She‘s an A-class, 3rd flotilla boat (if Codrington).

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Apr 2020, 13:59

Thanks for your help, Waleed

Itseems that the markings on the funnels match with HMS Codrington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Codrington_(D65)

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 11 Apr 2020, 19:37

The early funnel rings (3 in this case) indicate to which destroyer flotilla she was assigned. Besides being in the 3rd. she was also the flotilla leader and might be slightly bigger or differently configured compared to the other A-class boats.
If you compare photo on link I provided the ships have the same flags hoisted and what seems to be the same crowd around forward guns. I think it‘s photos of the same boat, same day taken moments apart.

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Post by Pips » 12 Apr 2020, 12:35

Actually I think the battleship is either HMS Barham or Malaya (of Queen Elizabeth Class BB). Both underwent refits between '31 and '34 when, amongst other things, the two funnels were truncated into one. Yet both retained the high fighting tops, unlike their sisters Warspite, Valiant and QE, which received the square Bridge structure.

Why I think the BB is Barham is because of the cut-away below the main deck forward of the guns. The QE class had a pronounced cutaway, originally for the lower deck 6" guns. The Revenge class had a much less cutaway, that started after the forward turrent. See pictures.
Also HMS Barham did serve in Spanish waters during the Spanish civil War.
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Post by Sturm78 » 31 Mar 2021, 22:37

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this MTB ?
According to Ebay photo caption, taken in Cherbourg
I have found that MTB 6 was sunken in Nov.1939 in Italy, so this would discard this option.... :roll:

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Post by Takao » 01 Apr 2021, 01:49

Sturm78 wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 22:37
Hi all,

Can somebody identify this MTB ?
According to Ebay photo caption, taken in Cherbourg
I have found that MTB 6 was sunken in Nov.1939 in Italy, so this would discard this option.... :roll:

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There were two MTB-6s. This one was built at the Vosper Yards in Portsmouth, for the Royal Norwegian Navy, and was attached to the 11th MTB Flotilla at Dover. The boat began leaking badly in a storm, and was abandoned.

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Apr 2021, 11:32

Takao wrote
There were two MTB-6s. This one was built at the Vosper Yards in Portsmouth, for the Royal Norwegian Navy, and was attached to the 11th MTB Flotilla at Dover. The boat began leaking badly in a storm, and was abandoned.
Thanks Takao....so an 60ft Vosper Type MTB... Do you know if it was used by Germans after his capture ?

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Post by Andy H » 01 Apr 2021, 16:57

Pips wrote:
12 Apr 2020, 12:35
Actually I think the battleship is either HMS Barham or Malaya (of Queen Elizabeth Class BB). Both underwent refits between '31 and '34 when, amongst other things, the two funnels were truncated into one. Yet both retained the high fighting tops, unlike their sisters Warspite, Valiant and QE, which received the square Bridge structure.

Why I think the BB is Barham is because of the cut-away below the main deck forward of the guns. The QE class had a pronounced cutaway, originally for the lower deck 6" guns. The Revenge class had a much less cutaway, that started after the forward turrent. See pictures.
Also HMS Barham did serve in Spanish waters during the Spanish civil War.
Hi Pips

I agree with it being the Barham, after her 1937 refit. With her Catapult on X Turret, her searchlight & pom-pom arrangements, plus her tripod mainmast and her control top with HACS.

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Post by Andy H » 01 Apr 2021, 16:59

Andy H wrote:
01 Apr 2021, 16:57
Pips wrote:
12 Apr 2020, 12:35
Actually I think the battleship is either HMS Barham or Malaya (of Queen Elizabeth Class BB). Both underwent refits between '31 and '34 when, amongst other things, the two funnels were truncated into one. Yet both retained the high fighting tops, unlike their sisters Warspite, Valiant and QE, which received the square Bridge structure.

Why I think the BB is Barham is because of the cut-away below the main deck forward of the guns. The QE class had a pronounced cutaway, originally for the lower deck 6" guns. The Revenge class had a much less cutaway, that started after the forward turrent. See pictures.
Also HMS Barham did serve in Spanish waters during the Spanish civil War.
Hi Pips

I agree with it being the Barham, after her 1937 refit. With her Catapult on X Turret, her searchlight & pom-pom arrangements, plus her tripod mainmast and her control top with HACS. Finally her stern arrangement is definitely from the QE class and not the RS class.

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