Briths Army And Facial Hair

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Briths Army And Facial Hair

Post by gavmeister13 » 17 Feb 2004 21:34

what was the British Army's standing on facial hair? did you have to be clean shaven or could you grow a beard/mousatache and if so could you just do it or did you have to ask for permission?

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Post by Necros » 18 Feb 2004 11:04

I found this information under the following link:
http://www.1stairborne.com/conduct.html

Facial Hair
Moustaches have always been permitted in the British Army. Official regulation requires them to not extend past the corners of the mouth. "Handlebar" styles are permitted if properly waxed. Beards are forbidden by regulation, except by Pioneers, or for medical reasons that prevent a soldier from shaving.


I hope it could be of some help to answer your question

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Post by gavmeister13 » 19 Feb 2004 13:16

nice one, thanks

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Re: Briths Army And Facial Hair

Post by Richard Sands » 31 Oct 2018 13:04

Though Pipers in Scottish regiments were allowed Beards!!!

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Re: Briths Army And Facial Hair

Post by Torwhy » 29 Nov 2018 04:15

Pioneers are also among those that can wear beards in the British army.

Here's an article that discusses the issue in more detail, but essentially it states that the following can have beards: "Some of the only roles allowed a beard on parade include Pioneer Sergeants, Drum Majors, Pipe Majors, Bugle Majors and Goat Majors."

https://www.forces.net/news/meet-pionee ... ard-parade

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Re: Briths Army And Facial Hair

Post by Sheldrake » 29 Nov 2018 13:34

There is an article on the history of army facial hair in the Journal of the society for Army Historical Research.

Until the end of the C18th facial hair was forbidden. Beards were something worn by savages, pirates and brigands. However as hussars becamee fashionable as semi special forces, they brought with them a fashion for moustaches. These then crept across the upper lips of the rest of the cavalry.

Beards came into fashion after the Crimean war where there wasn't the water to shave - and then departed by the end of the C19th. By this time the military 'tashe was more or less compulsory.

The Arrsepedia says
Small rodent whose preferred habitat is beneath the nasal septum. Usual observed activities are sleeping and building a nest of dried mucus, flakes of Ginster's pasties, etc. Exact reproductive cycle is currently undetermined.

The 'mussie' is also the traditional upper lip adornment of the British Army and a throwback to the days when the sons of Empire sported full sets whilst giving Johnny Foreigner a succession of drubbings. Taken to extremes by RSMs and overweight REME Tiffies the World over by waxing etc., it is today the de rigeur badge of office of THEM (or was until the 1990s).

'They' tend to wear them in the style of Mexican bandits, the reason for which has never been adequately explained. Such outrageous facial hairage was, however, in great demand by producers within the European pornographic industry in the 1970s, and many former members [pun unintended] of the regiment can be viewed giving some Danish bint the good news in many a celluloid bedroom epic of that era. It was due to regimental influence of the Scandinavian adult film industry that usage of the 'crouching soldier' position became the accepted norm - along with the retention of hosiery and/or footwear 'in action'.

There was a fashion in the 1970s for weird facial hair around Northern Ireland
https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Sideys
https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Pork_Chops
see also concepts of Allyness
https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Allyness

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Re: Briths Army And Facial Hair

Post by Clive Mortimore » 23 Dec 2018 20:28

The 1881 regulations limited beards to Pioneer Sergeants in infantry battalions, and a few other limited regimental oddities, and veterans of the Crimean War. The Crimean veteran exception remained in Queens/Kings regs for many years after the last veteran had left the army. Sikhs are permitted to wear a full beard as are men excused shaving by the MO.

When I was in Belize I was excused shaving due an infected rash. The Gurkhas who were on our camp all called me "Sailor".

The main reason since WW1 for the army to be clean shaven is the standard respirators (gas mask) are designed to fit a clean shaven chin. Those who are permitted to wear beards are issued a slightly larger gas mask designed to fit around a beard.
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