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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by daveh » 15 Mar 2011, 16:20

Interesting pic thanks for sharing

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 17 Mar 2011, 11:52

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think 75mm GP (I, II or III ?? ) captured guns and Latil tractors of Belgian Army.

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jul 2011, 18:21

Hi all,

75mm GP captured belgium guns:

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Jul 2011, 09:49

Hi all,

Another image of this howitzer. See Pag.5 in this thread.
This must be one of the most photographed pieces of artillery of the war 8O :lol:

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Manuferey » 28 Jul 2011, 00:17

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think 75mm GP (I, II or III ?? ) captured guns and Latil tractors of Belgian Army.

Sturm78
Sturm78,

The carriage of the gun in the middle of the picture seems to be from a 7.7 cm FK 16 by looking how the gun is attached to the recoil mechanism, so it would exclude the GP I which was based on the carriage of the 10.5 cm leFH16. :idea:
This is also true for the 2nd picture: it looks like a 7.7 cm FK 16 carriage.

After that, I cannot tell if it is a GP II or a GP III. I haven’t figure out yet how to differentiate between a lengthened 75 mm TR barrel (GP II) and a relined 7,7 cm FK 16 barrel (GP III). :?

I also wonder if the Belgian Army modernized both GP II and GP III with pneumatic tires or just the GP III. That would help us a lot! 8-)

Emmanuel

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Sep 2011, 11:31

Hi all,

I think 75mm Belgian AA gun

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2011, 15:04

Hi all,

A rare image of a 120mm FRC M1931 belgian gun:

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 27 Oct 2011, 22:13

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

I think 75mm Belgian AA gun

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Wow not many photos of the 75mm FRC mle 27, nice find. Looking at the shield it saw some action!!
Clive

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 Nov 2011, 18:10

Hi all,

Two small images from Ebay of a 75mm GP ex-belgian gun in german use:

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by YAN » 16 Nov 2011, 17:55

Hi, was the Canon de 75 GP III a model 1904 or 1919.
Yan.

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 Nov 2011, 16:09

Hi all,

Another image of an abandoned 120mm FRC M1931 belgian gun

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Nov 2011, 18:07

Here a other one from the other side from Ebay

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by verdenpark » 26 Nov 2011, 02:13

Did the they have cannister rounds for any (including the 47mm A.T.) of their artillery?
Those who live by the sword...... get shot.

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by YAN » 26 Nov 2011, 21:18

Hi Verdenpark, I can only find this:

Con de 47 antichars model 1931.
Shell Weight: AP 1.560 kg, HE. 1.665 kg.
Canon de 76 FRC
Shell Weight: HE 4.64 kg
Canon de 75 modele 1934
Shell Weight: HE 9.59 kg.
Canon de 75 TR model 1905
Shell Weight: HE 6.5 kg
Canon de 75 GP III Model ????? (I still cannot find a date for this gun)
Shell Weight: HE 6.125 kg

Not sure why each of the 75mm have different weights, but I would like to find out.
Regards Yan.

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Re: Begian artillery 1940

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Post by verdenpark » 27 Nov 2011, 01:09

Thanks for that Yan. It is strange that the 75s have such a variation in shell weights. The difference in the last two could be just refining the projectile form a little. The one that surprises me the most is the 75M34. That is a whopping 21lb.s. It must have been a very long shell for that calibre. Also, the 76 seems very light at just over 10lb.s. I would have expected between 12 and 16lb.s.
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