Greek Artillery 1941

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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by nuyt » 18 Dec 2020 17:46

Here it is, red hot evidence of being Vickers:
http://collections.dockmuseum.org.uk/mw ... 1;type=101
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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Dec 2020 22:49

nuyt wrote
Here it is, red hot evidence of being Vickers:
http://collections.dockmuseum.org.uk/mw ... 1;type=101
Hi Nuyt,
I think you has found the definitive solution...!! :)

However, this gun is a different model from the standard 76mm 3in 20cwt British anti-aircraft gun...
Was this a specific Vickers model for export?
Does anyone know if this model was used in some other Greek navy ship?

It is a pity that no information about the different guns is provided on your link's website. The small size of the photos makes it difficult to clearly appreciate any detail ... :cry:

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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by nuyt » 19 Dec 2020 22:27

Not a specific export model I think, but a modernized older Greek 12 pounder from the Averof like here : http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_3-40_mk1.php
or Ansaldo 76/40, using a new barrel and a sliding wedge breechblock like on the modern Vickers 75mm AA gun.

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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2020 14:39

nuyt wrote
Not a specific export model I think, but a modernized older Greek 12 pounder from the Averof like here : http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_3-40_mk1.php
or Ansaldo 76/40, using a new barrel and a sliding wedge breechblock like on the modern Vickers 75mm AA gun.
Ummmhhhh...New barrel, new breechblock and also new brake and recovery mechanisms....and probably new sights also and other things... :roll:
I doubt it was worth so much effort to modernize an old gun. It would probably be almost as expensive as a new one...

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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by nuyt » 20 Dec 2020 16:24

Well, that's business :) The Vickers archives tag this gun as one built for the Greek Govt, not as a new type of naval AA gun. Then, if politics chose a British firm and this company does not have a ready made new naval AA weapon available for export, and the Greeks can supply old guns to be modernized or as a basis to work from, then, yep, there is a cost, but you get the job done.

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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by Dili » 20 Dec 2020 22:10

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Excellent nuyt, this mount is completely different from Italian ones, so it should be an original Vickers

it seems to have a longer tube than 40 calibers


edit: maybe based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3-inch_20_cwt ?
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Re: Greek Artillery 1941

Post by nuyt » 21 Dec 2020 10:09

Yeah it is some sort of combination. I am guessing now it was the barrel and breechblock of the famous Vickers 75mm aa gun, but then in 76,2mm (like the Finns received in 1936), fitted on a navy mount with some purpose built adjustments.

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