Egyptian military in the war

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Egyptian military in the war

Post by Setsurinvich » 11 Jun 2018 03:57

So does anyone know about the state of the royal Egyptian forces during ww2? How were they trained and organized What are their weapons

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Sheldrake » 11 Jun 2018 08:30

Under British control in an uneasy relationship. Before WW2 British troops stationed in Egypt were at one point forbidden to train in the Western Desert to avoid provoking the Italians.

The Egyptian army was equipped with obsolescent British equipment. These included 12 x 3" 20 cwt AA guns that might have been better deployed as Anti-tank weapons with the 8th Army.

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Setsurinvich » 11 Jun 2018 15:21

Where did you get those sources?

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Sheldrake » 12 Jun 2018 08:44

Setsurinvich wrote:Where did you get those sources?
memory - but not very different to the link ironmachine posted

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Setsurinvich » 12 Jun 2018 16:08

Very interesting stats. Any word on it's navy?

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by DarrenMarshall » 25 Aug 2018 17:30

So egyptian forces never fought against the axis forces, right?

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Loïc » 25 Aug 2018 22:45

hello

Once Italy entered the war Egyptian air defence positions were often in action and suffered heavy casualties, British reports noting with approval how several batteries continued firing even after being hit (...) similarly manned coastal defence batteries to fend off raids by Italians torpedo boats
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Axis air-raids against the Suez Canal Zone were frequent with Egyptian anti-aircaft gunners suffering many casualties
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Elite Frontier Force endured regular bombing raids
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Siwa oasis remained under Egyptian control and frequently came under Italian air attack. In return Egyptian anti-aircraft batteries brought down several enemy aircraft, capturing one crew while the Frontier Force similarly captured a small number of Italian troops
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Sadly it was the failure of a LRDG attack on the Benghazi area which prompted the Italians to send about 50 men preceded by a single aircraft to take Siwa from its British garrison - a loss which upset the Egyptian Army who had so successfully defended Siwa for so long.
The fact that the British abandoned Siwa to the Italians whithout a shot being fired undermined Egyptian confidence in their allies still further.
A motorised battalion of the Sudan Defence Force based at Bahariyah subsequently made a counter demonstration against the Italians in Siwa shortly before the second battle of al-Alamein but without result.

Our Egyptian Allies
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Military Illustrated 118
march 1998

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Re: Egyptian military in the war

Post by Urmel » 28 Aug 2018 13:52

Loïc wrote:
25 Aug 2018 22:45
Siwa oasis remained under Egyptian control and frequently came under Italian air attack. In return Egyptian anti-aircraft batteries brought down several enemy aircraft, capturing one crew while the Frontier Force similarly captured a small number of Italian troops
Nice story, but... Siwa was occupied by British troops in 1941, specifically the 1st Worcesters of 29 Indian Infantry Brigade.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle 1941/42

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