► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 13 May 2019 21:01

Hi all,

I think Backofenwagen (Vwf.1)

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 14 May 2019 07:31

Hi Sturm 78,

thank You very much for posting this pic. These are not German Backofenwagen (Vwf.1), but captured Czechoslovakian field bakery wagon M 1901. For comparing here a pic of a Backofenwagen (Vwf.1).

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 14 May 2019 19:53

Bert wrote
Thank You very much for posting this pic. These are not German Backofenwagen (Vwf.1), but captured Czechoslovakian field bakery wagon M 1901. For comparing here a pic of a Backofenwagen (Vwf.1).
Thanks for your correction , Bert

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 15 May 2019 19:45

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. Hf.1 or Hf.2

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 16 May 2019 10:57

Hi Sturm 78,

the wagon on Your pic is a Hf. 1. Here pics of a Hf. 1 and Hf. 2 for comparing.

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 19 May 2019 19:35

Bert wrote
the wagon on Your pic is a Hf. 1. Here pics of a Hf. 1 and Hf. 2 for comparing.
Thank you, Bert. :) The angle of the photo made identification difficult for me...

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 24 May 2019 13:49

Hi all,

Is this a schwere Feldhaubitzprotze 02 ? It seems different...

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 26 May 2019 11:23

Hi Sturm 78,

You are right, there are some differences. Here a pic of the schwere Feldhaubitz-Protze 02 out of the book "Bespannte Fahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres" by Wolfgang Fleischer. There is the information, that the box of the limber had two boxes for the transport of equipment, supplies and entrenching tools. There is no information about ammunition. Besides the height of this Protze is 1795 mm. But the vehicle on Your pic is higher I think. Unfortunately I have no information about an ammunition wagon for this gun.

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 26 May 2019 14:56

Thanks, Bert...Yes, I think the height is larger (around 2m I would say) anf the wheels seems of a larger diameter too...

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 26 May 2019 17:11

Hi Sturm 78,

I totally agree with You. On the site www.kfzderwehrmacht.de there is mentioned a "schwerer Feldhaubitz-Munitionswagen (Vorder- und Hinterwagen)"- "heavy field howitzer ammunition wagon (anterior and rear wagon)", but unfortunately no pic. Maybe that´s the vehicle on Your pic.

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Jul 2019 20:27

Hi all,

As usual I need help to identify this horse-drawn wagon: Nf.2 , Nf.4 ...??

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 02 Jul 2019 15:46

Hi Sturm 78,

a good pic and a good question. I think it is a Nf. 4 Kleinfunkwagen (small radio wagon), not the Nf. 2 leichter Fernsprechwagen (light telephone wagon), because there is a radio beside the wagon and the rear wagon has three seats and there is missing the typical signal equipment, rods and carrying frame.

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jul 2019 20:17

Hi Bert,

Thanks for your answer. It would be very useful have 3-view drawings of these wagons....to facilitate identification... :)

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by SIS 5 » 07 Jul 2019 22:04

Hi Sturm,

You are absolutely right. But I don´t have these and I have some doubts that they exist.

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Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

Post by carius » 07 Aug 2019 06:24

Fuel wagon?
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