► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

A section dedicated to photo threads on panzer and other Axis vehicles.
Post Reply
Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#931

Post by Sturm78 » 13 May 2019, 22:01

Hi all,

I think Backofenwagen (Vwf.1)

Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Attachments
field oven wagons.jpg

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#932

Post by SIS 5 » 14 May 2019, 08:31

Hi Sturm 78,

thank You very much for posting this pic. These are not German Backofenwagen (Vwf.1), but captured Czechoslovakian field bakery wagon M 1901. For comparing here a pic of a Backofenwagen (Vwf.1).

Best regards

Bert
Attachments
Vwf. 1.png
Vwf. 1.png (194.87 KiB) Viewed 2294 times


Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#933

Post by Sturm78 » 14 May 2019, 20:53

Bert wrote
Thank You very much for posting this pic. These are not German Backofenwagen (Vwf.1), but captured Czechoslovakian field bakery wagon M 1901. For comparing here a pic of a Backofenwagen (Vwf.1).
Thanks for your correction , Bert

Regards
Sturm78

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#934

Post by Sturm78 » 15 May 2019, 20:45

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. Hf.1 or Hf.2

Sturm78
Attachments
Hf Gefechtswagen in Belgien, 1940.jpg

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#935

Post by SIS 5 » 16 May 2019, 11:57

Hi Sturm 78,

the wagon on Your pic is a Hf. 1. Here pics of a Hf. 1 and Hf. 2 for comparing.

Best regards

Bert
Attachments
Hf. 1.png
Hf. 1.png (577.11 KiB) Viewed 2241 times
Hf. 2.png
Hf. 2.png (475.1 KiB) Viewed 2241 times

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#936

Post by Sturm78 » 19 May 2019, 20:35

Bert wrote
the wagon on Your pic is a Hf. 1. Here pics of a Hf. 1 and Hf. 2 for comparing.
Thank you, Bert. :) The angle of the photo made identification difficult for me...

Regards
Sturm78

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#937

Post by Sturm78 » 24 May 2019, 14:49

Hi all,

Is this a schwere Feldhaubitzprotze 02 ? It seems different...

Image from Getty
Sturm78
Attachments
15cm sFH13 L14 howitzer and ammo limbers in position in Eastern front,  1915-.jpg

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#938

Post by SIS 5 » 26 May 2019, 12:23

Hi Sturm 78,

You are right, there are some differences. Here a pic of the schwere Feldhaubitz-Protze 02 out of the book "Bespannte Fahrzeuge des deutschen Heeres" by Wolfgang Fleischer. There is the information, that the box of the limber had two boxes for the transport of equipment, supplies and entrenching tools. There is no information about ammunition. Besides the height of this Protze is 1795 mm. But the vehicle on Your pic is higher I think. Unfortunately I have no information about an ammunition wagon for this gun.

Best regards

Bert
Attachments
Protze 02.png
Protze 02.png (130.63 KiB) Viewed 2141 times

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#939

Post by Sturm78 » 26 May 2019, 15:56

Thanks, Bert...Yes, I think the height is larger (around 2m I would say) anf the wheels seems of a larger diameter too...

Sturm78

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#940

Post by SIS 5 » 26 May 2019, 18:11

Hi Sturm 78,

I totally agree with You. On the site www.kfzderwehrmacht.de there is mentioned a "schwerer Feldhaubitz-Munitionswagen (Vorder- und Hinterwagen)"- "heavy field howitzer ammunition wagon (anterior and rear wagon)", but unfortunately no pic. Maybe that´s the vehicle on Your pic.

Best regards

Bert

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#941

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Jul 2019, 21:27

Hi all,

As usual I need help to identify this horse-drawn wagon: Nf.2 , Nf.4 ...??

Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Attachments
FR6343.jpg

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#942

Post by SIS 5 » 02 Jul 2019, 16:46

Hi Sturm 78,

a good pic and a good question. I think it is a Nf. 4 Kleinfunkwagen (small radio wagon), not the Nf. 2 leichter Fernsprechwagen (light telephone wagon), because there is a radio beside the wagon and the rear wagon has three seats and there is missing the typical signal equipment, rods and carrying frame.

Best regards

Bert

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 17981
Joined: 02 Oct 2008, 18:18
Location: Spain

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#943

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jul 2019, 21:17

Hi Bert,

Thanks for your answer. It would be very useful have 3-view drawings of these wagons....to facilitate identification... :)

Regards
Sturm78

SIS 5
Member
Posts: 5921
Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 18:27
Location: Germany

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#944

Post by SIS 5 » 07 Jul 2019, 23:04

Hi Sturm,

You are absolutely right. But I don´t have these and I have some doubts that they exist.

Best regards

Bert

User avatar
carius
Member
Posts: 19800
Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 21:15
Location: Bulgaria

Re: ► Photothread: German horse-drawn wagons

#945

Post by carius » 07 Aug 2019, 07:24

Fuel wagon?
Image from ebay.de №282048725895
wagon.jpg
George

Post Reply

Return to “Panzer & other vehicles - Photo threads”