► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context
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Thank you, Bert
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Photo from eBay. (What kind of kitchen?)
(Max, thank you for beute French cuisine)!
(Max, thank you for beute French cuisine)!
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context
Apologies for long delay, I confess I don't visit this thread often.
The photograph supplied by SIS on 29.12.16 is a Polish wz 31 S kitchen trailer. I suspect some wires have got crossed regarding the 'Czechoslovak M09'. There was no Czechoslovakia in 1909 and Czechoslovak army equipment patterns were prefixed vz (wzor = pattern). Czech and Slovak soldiers of the KuK may well have been serviced by the Austro-Hungarian M09 field kitchen, however this was a somewhat different beast and not motorised. On the other hand it is entirely possible that Czechoslovakia produced a similar field kitchen to Poland, given that the grandfather of the wz 31 was the Austro-Hungarian M09 goulaschkanone and it is unlikely that the Czechoslovaks would have been entirely unaffected by their Austro-Hungarian heritage.
Uncle's picture of 23.12.16 is, I think the same chassis and bits, but which has lost its rotating couldron holder. This seems to have been replaced by a large fixed round cauldron, water boiler or some such.
The photograph supplied by SIS on 29.12.16 is a Polish wz 31 S kitchen trailer. I suspect some wires have got crossed regarding the 'Czechoslovak M09'. There was no Czechoslovakia in 1909 and Czechoslovak army equipment patterns were prefixed vz (wzor = pattern). Czech and Slovak soldiers of the KuK may well have been serviced by the Austro-Hungarian M09 field kitchen, however this was a somewhat different beast and not motorised. On the other hand it is entirely possible that Czechoslovakia produced a similar field kitchen to Poland, given that the grandfather of the wz 31 was the Austro-Hungarian M09 goulaschkanone and it is unlikely that the Czechoslovaks would have been entirely unaffected by their Austro-Hungarian heritage.
Uncle's picture of 23.12.16 is, I think the same chassis and bits, but which has lost its rotating couldron holder. This seems to have been replaced by a large fixed round cauldron, water boiler or some such.
Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context
Hi gebhg,
excuse me, please, for the wrong identification of the field kitchen. I uncritically accepted the identification of Horst Hinrichsen in his book "Gulaschkanonen. Feldküchen - Bäckereien 1935 - 1945". I didn´t know, thatthere was a Polish field kitchen wz. 31 S.
Regards
Bert
excuse me, please, for the wrong identification of the field kitchen. I uncritically accepted the identification of Horst Hinrichsen in his book "Gulaschkanonen. Feldküchen - Bäckereien 1935 - 1945". I didn´t know, thatthere was a Polish field kitchen wz. 31 S.
Regards
Bert
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I wouldn't worry about it. Unlike, say, rifles, field kitchens used the same 'ammunition' the world over so there were no problems utilising other folks' equipment.
I forgot to add that numbers of the KuK O9 no doubt were inherited by the new Czechoslovakia in 1918 as they were by Poland. Wouldn't be at all surprised if some 09's (or their Czechoslovak derivative) were motorised by the Czechoslovak armed forces and eventually ended up with the WH. I have seen photographs of a field kitchen trailer in the service of a WH mountain division in Poland, so similar to the wz 31S that I initially assumed it was a captured Polish kitchen. On closer examination, I don't think it is. Perhaps it is the real Czechoslovak kitchen that Horst Hinrichsen mistook the Polish item for?
I forgot to add that numbers of the KuK O9 no doubt were inherited by the new Czechoslovakia in 1918 as they were by Poland. Wouldn't be at all surprised if some 09's (or their Czechoslovak derivative) were motorised by the Czechoslovak armed forces and eventually ended up with the WH. I have seen photographs of a field kitchen trailer in the service of a WH mountain division in Poland, so similar to the wz 31S that I initially assumed it was a captured Polish kitchen. On closer examination, I don't think it is. Perhaps it is the real Czechoslovak kitchen that Horst Hinrichsen mistook the Polish item for?
Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context
Hi all,
I am not sure: Hf.13 ??
Image from Ebay
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I am not sure: Hf.13 ??
Image from Ebay
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Thank you, Max
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3 views of a POW Field Kitchen in France, 1940:
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Gulaschkanonier anton magerfleisch
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Hello Tosun,
Great cartoons! Thanks for posting them.
Great cartoons! Thanks for posting them.
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