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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 22 Jan 2020 22:58

Hi Sturm,
Correct. The Cavalry type (left) was a single wagon with no limber:
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 24 Jan 2020 09:19

Captured KP-3-37
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Feb 2020 21:56

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. A Hf.12 or Hf.14 kitchen...It is difficult to ensure

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by SIS 5 » 22 Feb 2020 19:03

Hi,

here a pic with Finnish fiel kitchens, model M 1929 (source of the pic: www.sa kuva.fi).

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Flak3.7 » 26 Feb 2020 22:44

Sturm78 wrote:
18 Feb 2020 21:56
Hi all,

An image from Ebay. A Hf.12 or Hf.14 kitchen...It is difficult to ensure

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You're right, it is hard to tell as most of the identifying features are obscured. It's a Hf.14 though, the Hf.12 doesn't have the rows of ventilation holes on the rear panel, which can just be made out in this photo. A Hf.12 also has raised square panels on the right side, behind the wheel, as shown in this photo.
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Source: expired ebay.de auction

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2020 22:31

Flak 3.7 wrote
You're right, it is hard to tell as most of the identifying features are obscured. It's a Hf.14 though, the Hf.12 doesn't have the rows of ventilation holes on the rear panel, which can just be made out in this photo. A Hf.12 also has raised square panels on the right side, behind the wheel, as shown in this photo.
Thank you very much for your help, Flak 3.7... :wink:

What is your opinion about this one ? This kitchen have the rows of ventilation holes on the rear panel as Hf.14 but the old conical chimney as Hf.12.... :?

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Feb 2020 23:16

That is a great pic of what I would have assumed to be an Hf. 12. As food for thought, here is a screenshot from the now defunct Panzerarmee web site. The comment below the first table is interesting.
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Flak3.7 » 28 Feb 2020 13:13

Sturm78 wrote:
27 Feb 2020 22:31
Flak 3.7 wrote
You're right, it is hard to tell as most of the identifying features are obscured. It's a Hf.14 though, the Hf.12 doesn't have the rows of ventilation holes on the rear panel, which can just be made out in this photo. A Hf.12 also has raised square panels on the right side, behind the wheel, as shown in this photo.
Thank you very much for your help, Flak 3.7... :wink:

What is your opinion about this one ? This kitchen have the rows of ventilation holes on the rear panel as Hf.14 but the old conical chimney as Hf.12.... :?

Image from Ebay
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You're welcome Sturm78.

This is a strange one, as you say it has features of both a Hf.12 and Hf.14! Interestingly the rear panel ventilation holes are not the same as a Hf.14 which has 9 holes on the top row. This kitchen has 7, which I have never seen before. The left hand side coffee boiler has Hf.14 features, but the rest of the kitchen with the exception of the rear panel is a Hf.12. Notice also the difference in the fire doors. The centre one is as seen on Hf.12's and the left hand one is as on Hf.14

This could be a Hf.12 that has been repaired with a coffee boiler and parts from a Hf.14? The unknown rear panel is a mystery though!

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Flak3.7 » 28 Feb 2020 13:35

Maxschnauzer wrote:
27 Feb 2020 23:16
That is a great pic of what I would have assumed to be an Hf. 12. As food for thought, here is a screenshot from the now defunct Panzerarmee web site. The comment below the first table is interesting.
Hi Max,

Unfortunately the first point on this table is incorrect. I did contact the owner of the Panzerarmee website to correct some of the mistakes on the field kitchen id pages.

Yes, they do differentiate. The left hand column relates to the Hf.14 and the right Hf.12.

All Hf.14 kitchens had 9 holes on the top row and 11 on the bottom row.
$_57 (5).JPG
Source: expired ebay.de auction

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 28 Feb 2020 17:31

Tim wrote
This is a strange one, as you say it has features of both a Hf.12 and Hf.14! Interestingly the rear panel ventilation holes are not the same as a Hf.14 which has 9 holes on the top row. This kitchen has 7, which I have never seen before. The left hand side coffee boiler has Hf.14 features, but the rest of the kitchen with the exception of the rear panel is a Hf.12. Notice also the difference in the fire doors. The centre one is as seen on Hf.12's and the left hand one is as on Hf.14

This could be a Hf.12 that has been repaired with a coffee boiler and parts from a Hf.14? The unknown rear panel is a mystery though!
Hello, Tim...Yes, it is puzzle.... :roll:

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 Feb 2020 21:50

Flak3.7 wrote:
28 Feb 2020 13:35
Maxschnauzer wrote:
27 Feb 2020 23:16
That is a great pic of what I would have assumed to be an Hf. 12. As food for thought, here is a screenshot from the now defunct Panzerarmee web site. The comment below the first table is interesting.
Hi Max,

Unfortunately the first point on this table is incorrect. I did contact the owner of the Panzerarmee website to correct some of the mistakes on the field kitchen id pages.

Yes, they do differentiate. The left hand column relates to the Hf.14 and the right Hf.12.

All Hf.14 kitchens had 9 holes on the top row and 11 on the bottom row.

$_57 (5).JPG

Source: expired ebay.de auction

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Tim
Hello Tim,
Thanks very much for clearing this up. This has "muddied the waters" for me for several years now.
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Flak3.7 » 29 Feb 2020 00:11

Maxschnauzer wrote:
28 Feb 2020 21:50
Maxschnauzer wrote:
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Hello Tim,
Thanks very much for clearing this up. This has "muddied the waters" for me for several years now.
You're welcome.

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Maxschnauzer » 29 Mar 2020 03:18

Sd.Ah.106 Feldbackofen in Russia
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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Apr 2020 13:13

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. Sd.A.401 and an unknown field kitchen in the background

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Re: ► Photothread: Field Kitchens in Context

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Apr 2020 16:16

Hi all,

M09 kitchens (with rotating stove top)

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