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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Jose85 » 22 Sep 2019 10:09

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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Jose85 » 01 Oct 2019 17:02

Chevrolet LRL
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by SIS 5 » 01 Oct 2019 23:04

Hi Jose,

a very interesting pic of a Chevrolet. Thanks for posting. I think it is necessary to give some more information to this bus:
the Polish company Lilpop, Rau i Loewenstein" S.A. (LRL) got the license from the American company General Motors Corporation (GMC) to produce trucks and busses. GMC delivered the chassis "Chevrolet 183" (the number 183 indicates the wheelbase 183 inches = 4661 mm). I have found the designation of this bus: Chevrolet EFD 183 FS, but I don´t know what the abbreviation EFD and FS means.
Here another pic of this Chevrolet bus (source: www.wykop.pl).

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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Jose85 » 06 Oct 2019 22:04

Opel Blitz
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by korup » 07 Oct 2019 18:10

I can’t find out what EFD means too – I doubt it’s Polish abbreviation. The license for Chevrolet 183 (chassis+powerplant only) was obtained by Lilpop, Rau and Loewenstein Company in mid-1930s. LR&L was a maker of various "devices", including steam engines, railroad cars, the rails, trams, waterworks devices, agricultural machines, internal-combustion engines, steam engines, hydraulic turbines, firefighting equipment, laundry washing machines, and many others. But for common people Lilpop was a car maker first of all. They imported complete chassis and bought licenses from General Motors, what allowed to produce Chevrolets, Buicks, Opels and a few others.
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The first batch of 183” chassis was delivered directly by GM company, but second batch was locally made at LR&L plant in Starachowice. The LR&L was also car-bodies maker, so it remains unclear why EFD 183 bodies were made at Industrial Plants “Bielany” S.A.? Bielany is a district in Warsaw (S.A. = joint-stock company) and this turned to be known as new bus name: Chevrolet Bielany, used parallel to Chevrolet 183.

Early 183rds differed from later model a little. It had ugly, goggled front lights and hand grips installed directly on doors, instead of bus body. Chevrolet Bielany was used in Warsaw since 12th July 1937 and at Lublin and Kraków at later dates. There were 60 buses produced in total, some remained in use till 1946.

The Wehrmacht captured a number of EFD 183s in 1939, used by Polish Army and used them for their own purposes. Those without military career were left in mentioned cities for municipal transport until late 1944. By then, German Army took over again several buses to evacuate own troops.

Below is a few photos of Chevrolet Bielany – enjoy.
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to be continued below...
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by korup » 07 Oct 2019 18:15

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Autobus Chevrolet FS183 Bielany Lublin.jpg
That's it folks.
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by SIS 5 » 07 Oct 2019 18:40

Hi Max,

after more than four years I think I can ID the bus on the pic You posted 30 Sept 2015. It is a Dürkopp bus. I think it could be the type "O 5".

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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Maxschnauzer » 07 Oct 2019 22:49

SIS 5 wrote:
07 Oct 2019 18:40
Hi Max,

after more than four years I think I can ID the bus on the pic You posted 30 Sept 2015. It is a Dürkopp bus. I think it could be the type "O 5".

Best regards

Bert
Hi Bert,
Wow! That's a long time ago! Thanks very much. Now I can ID these as O 5 as well:
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Maxschnauzer » 08 Oct 2019 05:27

And here's another one. Do you have a type ID for it, Bert?
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Maxschnauzer » 08 Oct 2019 10:24

Hello korup,
Thanks very much for your excellent posts on the Polish GMC buses. Lots of great info, I've bookmarked them.
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by korup » 08 Oct 2019 10:42

All pleasure is mine. And it still will be answering some questions on Polish pre-1939 cars, if there are any.
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by SIS 5 » 09 Oct 2019 17:29

Hi Max,

I have this bus type under the designation "O 3" from 1928.

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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Oct 2019 23:17

Thank you, Bert. Interesting pre-Photoshop photo editing there. You've filled in another blank in my archives. :)
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by carius » 22 Oct 2019 07:07

Image from ebay.de №352814803409
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Re: ► Photothread: Bus/Omnibuss

Post by SIS 5 » 23 Oct 2019 17:20

Hi,

here a pic of a Merceds-Benz COE bus. I think it is the type OP 3750. Source of the pic: an expired ebay auction.

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Bert
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