► Photothread: Bloody Hansa Lloyd/Borgwards

[Luftflotte2]

Hansa-Lloyd Europa IV D.
source: ebay.de

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. I am not sure about the exact model

Sturm78

[Luftflotte2]

Interesting cab in Lublin, Poland.

source: ebay.de

[fireindi64]

Interesting cab in Lublin, Poland.

source: ebay.de

Hello all, hello Luftflotte

indeed its a interessting and rare version of the Borgward 3t. Like my opinion its a special version only for the RAD. I know about 4-5 pictures with this cab, and all Borgwards have to do with the RAD!

please look here:

bottom http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&t=164220

top http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... D#p1615231

best regards
Henning

[Luftflotte2]

Interesting. So this vehicle has been transferred from the RAD to the Luftwaffe.

I was wondering what the meaning of "Lx" is. It is not a symbol I've seen before.

[SIS 5]

Hi Henning, hi Luftflotte 2,

I totally agree with You, Henning. This must be a version especially produced for the "Reichsarbeitsdienst" (RAD). Here apic of such a truck with a license plate of the RAD (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

Regards

Bert

[fireindi64]

Interesting. So this vehicle has been transferred from the RAD to the Luftwaffe.

I was wondering what the meaning of "Lx" is. It is not a symbol I've seen before.

Hi Luftflotte, all

This fact is a little bit complicated. THe equipement ,trucks and workers are all members of the RAD. This RAD units built for examples air fields for the WL. So we find the WL signs on the trucks and it could be that the Lx is also something WL.

Here is a little explination but unfotunaly only in german.

http://www.argus.bstu.bundesarchiv.de/R ... 660b06cff5

best regards
Henning

ps. other idea for Lx, may be it could be the WL unit L for Luftwaffen Bau Regiment and x for 10 or XI for 11

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... derung.htm

[Luftflotte2]

Thank you for the links. If a Luftwaffen-Bau-Regiment is named after the Luftgau it belongs to, then Luftwaffen-Bau-Regiment X should belong to Luftgau-Kommando X. This unit only existed temporarily in 1938. In contradiction, the eBay seller states the location is Zamość, Poland. Which would imply that this photo was taken after 1939. Thus, the full symbol should be LXI (for the theory to make sense). Just a thought.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: I think a Hansa Lloyd Merkur I, II or III...

Sturm78

[fireindi64]

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: I think a Hansa Lloyd Merkur I, II or III...

Sturm78

Hi Sturm,all

I think its more a HL 3t Europa II or III. Please compare both pictures about the details and have a look on the load capacity " 3000 Kg"

Best regards
Henning

[SIS 5]

Hi Henning,

You know I have a deep respect for Your knowledge about Hansa-Lloyd trucks. But I have problems to agree with You. The truck on the pic You posted is for me also a Merkur because of the eight bolts. But maybe You know better the difference between Merkur and Europa 3-tonners.

Best regards

Bert

[fireindi64]

Hi Henning,

You know I have a deep respect for Your knowledge about Hansa-Lloyd trucks. But I have problems to agree with You. The truck on the pic You posted is for me also a Merkur because of the eight bolts. But maybe You know better the difference between Merkur and Europa 3-tonners.

Best regards

Bert

Hi Bertram,

no problem, its good to hear from time to time a other opinion hmm and you are right I am not 100% sure. The load capacity from 3000 kg was for me importent not the bolts.... could it be a Merkur? may be!

I need some time discussing this with my friends.

best regards
Henning

[carius]

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[carius]

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[Luftflotte2]

source: ebay.de