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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Adam Carr » 02 Feb 2011, 04:09

How did a Panther get to be burned out in the middle of Paris? (In front of the Hotel Crillon, I think).

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 02 Feb 2011, 23:12

Adam, I wish I knew the story of that. I am sure their are members of similar forums in France that would know that story. Perhaps they will come forward. I will try to look on the net for more information.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 02 Feb 2011, 23:17

More photos.


The Buschbach Panther with its turret lifted off the ring by an internal explosion.


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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Timm Haasler » 03 Feb 2011, 19:07

Hi Arthur,

The name of the town is Büsbach near Stolberg. Again it is a former Panther of Panzer-Abteilung 2105, the call-sign was 132.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 04 Feb 2011, 02:27

A Ausf G transformed into a bunker, plus another burning away.

1 more shot of the Büsbach Panther-same shot as before, just bigger.


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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Alejandro_ » 04 Feb 2011, 11:41

More photos. Interesting shot with the frontal armour penetrated.
Do you know where this Panther was knocked out? i.e Western or Eastern Front.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 05 Feb 2011, 01:39

I downloaded this quite some time ago and did not record its internet origin-sorry.

I believe it is the eastern front in 1945 due to the Ausf G Mantlet. It would take a SU-122 or SU-85 to easily penetrate the frontal armour-but this is just a guess.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 05 Feb 2011, 01:50

More photos.

These are all frontal penetrations.

The first photo I believe is Pz Lehr Normandy. My apologies that I don't have more info.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 05 Feb 2011, 14:26

1at photo-FF Forces with a I Pz Rgt 4 Panther in Italy.

2nd photo-the only caption for this was that it was south of Paris 1944.


3rd photo-Another photo on the Paris Panther.

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Adam Carr wrote:How did a Panther get to be burned out in the middle of Paris? (In front of the Hotel Crillon, I think).
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Civilians crowd around a burned-out German Panther tank on display in Place de la Concorde, around the time of celebrations for the liberation of Paris, France, late August, 1944. (Photo by Frank Scherschel/Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by turcoscot » 05 Feb 2011, 16:28

The Panther in the first photo posted by Panther Arthur which he says is Panzer Lehr from Normandy, also appears in Belton Cooper's book "Death Traps", in the illustrations facing p.198; he says "An American M36 tank destroyer with a 90mm cannon penetrated the face plate from 100 yards". The photo is from another angle, but definitely the same vehicle.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 06 Feb 2011, 17:34

Reha-thanks for the info. There are so many books I would like to buy-And the ones to read yet that I own! Terrible situation.

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French armour collection point, I Pz Rgt 3 and I Pz Rgt 25.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Alejandro_ » 07 Feb 2011, 12:00

2nd photo-the only caption for this was that it was south of Paris 1944 (referring to photos shown in message dated Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:50 am)
The uniforms in this photo look Soviet to me. I remember reading that this photo was taken in Czecholosvakia, and the penetration was caused by a 85mm round.

What about the third photo? the gaps in the armour do not look like penetrations. Maybe the metal was removed for analysis.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 07 Feb 2011, 14:16

It does look very brittle. Maybe a fault in the metal composition. I will forward another Panther picture tonight of the same effect happening. Like a chocolate easter egg kind of effect.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 07 Feb 2011, 23:47

1st, 2nd photos-Bulgarian post war Panthers plus another shot of Cuckoo, the Guards captured Panther.


3rd photo-The photo I was speaking about in the last post. The easter egg effect on the rear turret of the I/SS Pz Rgt 12 Ausf A in Brettville.

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Re: Destroyed/Captured Panther tanks

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Post by Panther Arthur » 09 Feb 2011, 00:41

More photos.

A destroyed Panther turm, followed by of what I believe is a Panther in Arhnem. It appears to have moved in one of the shots.

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