► Photothread: Motorcycles of Wehrmacht

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I need help to identify this motorcycle
Anyone ?

Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi Sturm 78,

that could be a Puch type S 4. Here a pic of this motorcycle
(source of the pic: https://www.motorrad-fuchs.com/de/singl ... S4_WH.html ).

Best regards

Bert

[Sturm78]

Bert wrote
that could be a Puch type S 4. Here a pic of this motorcycle
(source of the pic: https://www.motorrad-fuchs.com/de/singl ... S4_WH.html ).

Thank you very much for your help, Bert. I think you are right...

Here, another image. I think Moto-Guzzi motorcycles but.... Can somebody identify the exact model ?
Moto-Guzzi Alce ??

Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi Sturm 78,

You are right. It is a Moto-Guzzi motorcycle. The exact model: GT 17.
Here two pics of this motorcycle:
first pic: https://www.moto.it/moto-epoca/moto-guzzi/9170835
second pic: https://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/mot ... MB-MRi.htm

Best regards

Bert

[Sturm78]

Bert wrote
You are right. It is a Moto-Guzzi motorcycle. The exact model: GT 17.

Thanks for your answer, Bert. How is possible to differenciate between both models ?

Regards
Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi Sturm 78,

here two pics of the Moto-Guzzi 500 Alce for comparing.
Source of the first pic: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Mot ... 0_1939.jpg
Source of the second pic: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_Guzz ... glieri.jpg

Best regards

Bert

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this BMW motorcycle ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[jbroshot]

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this BMW motorcycle ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

BMW R4 (possibly a Series 1). "... most of the 15,295 R4s produced between 1932 and 1937 ended up in military or police use."

See The Complete Book of BMW Motorcycles: Every Model Since 1923, page 41.

https://archive.org/details/ian-falloon ... 1/mode/1up

[Sturm78]

jbroshot wrote
BMW R4 (possibly a Series 1). "... most of the 15,295 R4s produced between 1932 and 1937 ended up in military or police use."

Thanks for your answer, jbroshot, but I am not sure,
The exhaust seems to be situated in a higher position than usual for the R4....

Here, another image of a R4 for comparing

Regards
Sturm78

[spannermann]

Hi,
Do not know which of the two exhaust/silencer designs is the production version, but the lower version does allow for a pannier bag to be fitted at the rear wheel position, something not possible with the higher version. Also the passengers foot position would be a lot more comfortable with the lower silencer version..

An easy modification from one to the other for any mechanic.

cheers

[Sturm78]

Hi spannermann,

Well, probably you are right....a makeshift modification of a R4, then....

Sturm78

[spannermann]

Hi,
Will not do the leather of his boot any good being against the hot exhaust pipe all the time, but it would allow for deeper wading when crossing water for instance, a bit like the BMW R75 and the Zundapp KS 75 with their high up exhaust silencer boxes.

cheers

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. I think BMW R62 and BMW R4 motorcycles

Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi Sturm 78,

a very interesting question. The BMW R 4 motorcycles are clear. But the motorcycle in the middle is difficult to ID.
There is another possible motorcycle than the type R 62: the type R 52.
Both types had an identical construction except of the engines and the appropriate attachment parts.
The BMW R 52 had an engine with 486 ccm, the BMW R 62 an engine with 745 ccm.
Production figures: R 52 = 4.377 pieces, R 62 = 4.355 pieces.

Best regards

Bert