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Possibly a Ford, with the unusual, for a soft skin, addition of a Balkan cross.
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Truck seems to be Renault AHN. Photo made in 1943 or 1944?
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Opel Maultier with MG ring (or just a spare wheel?), FCM 36 tractor & Krupp Protze radio vehic Umbau from exp. eBay.de. Auction N:os embedded in pic names.
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Spare wheel.peeved wrote:Opel Maultier with MG ring (or just a spare wheel?)
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Piotr Mikołajski wrote:Spare wheel.peeved wrote:Opel Maultier with MG ring (or just a spare wheel?)
I'd like to think "especially since it is an ambulance"
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Hi,
here a pic with another Umbau; in this case a British Bedford modificated into a communication vehicle (house-type van).
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Bert
here a pic with another Umbau; in this case a British Bedford modificated into a communication vehicle (house-type van).
Regards
Bert
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I had posted this on the old thread, but I thought that it was a natural "follow-on" to the super photo Bert has shared,
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AFAIK the use of weapons for the defence of one self, the wounded or the sick is permitted for medical personnel. If that is the case I can't see why Red Cross vehicles shouldn't have a self-defence capability.Alanmccoubrey wrote:I'd like to think "especially since it is an ambulance"Piotr Mikołajski wrote:Spare wheel.peeved wrote:Opel Maultier with MG ring (or just a spare wheel?)
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Hello Bert, great photo. OX ?SIS 5 wrote:Hi,
here a pic with another Umbau; in this case a British Bedford modificated into a communication vehicle (house-type van).
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For personnel. There are no way to install weapons on vehicles, vessels, aicraft etc. marked with Red Cross. Even personnel can have just sidearm / small / personal weapons - pistols, rifles etc. but no machine guns or any other team weapons.peeved wrote:AFAIK the use of weapons for the defence of one self, the wounded or the sick is permitted for medical personnel.
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Markus, when the western allies started to capture "armed" German medics in Normandy they were quite shocked, none of "our" medics carried side arms even.
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Piotr Mikołajski wrote:For personnel. There are no way to install weapons on vehicles, vessels, aicraft etc. marked with Red Cross. Even personnel can have just sidearm / small / personal weapons - pistols, rifles etc. but no machine guns or any other team weapons.peeved wrote:AFAIK the use of weapons for the defence of one self, the wounded or the sick is permitted for medical personnel.
http://books.google.fi/books?id=hE_ILiF ... 22&f=falseThe use of or mounting of offensive weapons on dedicated medical evacuation vehicles and aircraft jeopardizes the protections afforded by the Geneva Conventions. These offensive weapons can include, but are not limited to: machine guns, grenade launchers, hand grenades,or anti-tank weapons.
Guess that makes the use of or mounting of defensive weapons allowable. But what would those be?
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AFAIK a side arm was normal for German medics but have seen photos of men with medic pouches who have decided to don a SMG and ditch the aiming mark armband; Eastern Front experience?Alanmccoubrey wrote:Markus, when the western allies started to capture "armed" German medics in Normandy they were quite shocked, none of "our" medics carried side arms even.
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For token topical content,
Hard cab Bedfords from exp. eBay.de at http://www.ebay.de/itm/151118981361?ru= ... 26_rdc%3D1 and N:o 221238058242.
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Hard cab Bedfords from exp. eBay.de at http://www.ebay.de/itm/151118981361?ru= ... 26_rdc%3D1 and N:o 221238058242.
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Well, I looked to the Red Cross and Geneva Convention, not to the books about modern combat medicine. Both sources mention personnel weapons, not AA armament.peeved wrote:Guess that makes the use of or mounting of defensive weapons allowable. But what would those be?
TBH I don't remember dedicated German medical vehicle with armament.
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