Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

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Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 19 Aug 2016 01:54

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TO THE NEW PHOTO THREAD on

ASSAULT GUNS


StuG III & IV;

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StuH 42;

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Brummbär;

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Sturmtiger;

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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 19 Aug 2016 02:25

And maybe the

Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B

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What does anyone think about the open tops being on here? The Self-propelled artillery?

Bison I &II
Wespe
Grille
Hummel
and maybe the
Karl Moser

I don't know, you tell me, let's discuss it and decide! :milwink:
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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 19 Aug 2016 02:43

8O 34 Confirmed Kill Rings!

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I'm guessing from an Infantry Regiment (no panzer collar tabs)

Does anyone know what badge the commander has under his tunic eagle?

With his impressive 4 solo tank destruction badges on his sleeve!

For a total of 38 vehicles destroyed!
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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by Sheldrake » 19 Aug 2016 08:35

Hauptmann Holston wrote:8O 34 Confirmed Kill Rings!

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I'm guessing from an Infantry Regiment (no panzer collar tabs)

Does anyone know what badge the commander has under his tunic eagle?

With his impressive 4 solo tank destruction badges on his sleeve!

For a total of 38 vehicles destroyed!
Why not the artillery branch? Sturmgeschutz brigades were manned by the artillery branch. It is true that Stug III were issued to Panzerjaeger battlaions of infantry divisions in lieu of Panzerjaeger and panzer units in lieu of tanks, but they were "sturm artillery" the clue in then title.

Guderian tried to have the StuG brought into the panzer arm but was told that "artillerymen had to be able to win the Ritterkreuz"

I attended a talk in 1988 by a German WW2 veteran artillery officer. I wish I had taken a note of his name. He had commanded a sturmgeschutz unit and talked about taking his guns forward on a raid through the Germans lines to attack armour from the flank or read. This is how he got his Ritterkreuz.

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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by kerryboo » 19 Aug 2016 09:09

It is hard to be sure, but perhaps he has a cloth version of the German Cross (gold or Silver).

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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 19 Aug 2016 21:46

"Tanks" for the replies.

Kerry that's what I thought at first but it looks like a Gothic letter or something. Almost like the L of Pz Lehr or the sports badge, but it definitely looks cloth to me.

Sheldrake,
I whish you had more info on the '88 talk.
Your are absolutly right they were part of the artillery branch. All I was saying is their uniforms do not have the panzer skull and bones so were most likely assigned to infantry units as assault guns, true to their nature.
Sheldrake wrote:Stug III were issued to Panzerjaeger battlaions of infantry divisions in lieu of Panzerjaeger


Only later, originally they were issued to artillery units (Sturm Brigade) for infantry divisions to maintain artillery while assaulting. The StuGs were subordinate to the infantry commanders of an assault. Assault gun= artillery to suport infanty assault. By pure coincidence it was realized their panzerjager abilities, I'm sure out of necessity. That's why at first they had short barrels, the longer one were added later for better distance and armor penetration. :milwink:
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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

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Re: Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Marcus » 20 Aug 2016 09:13

Please remember to post the sources of the phitos you post.

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Re: ► Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Denniss » 20 Aug 2016 10:47

The very first image looks more like StuH than StuG.

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Re: Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Pz III » 20 Aug 2016 14:43

The first photo is of a Stug III Ausf F with the 75mm L/43. I believe this Stug is part of Stug Abt 210.

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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 20 Aug 2016 15:51

Hauptmann Holston wrote: 34 Confirmed Kill Rings!

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Does anyone know what badge the commander has under his tunic eagle?

Anyone have any more information about this photo?
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Re: Photothread: ASSAULT GUNS (STURMGESCHÜTZ)

Post by shamirnewell » 20 Aug 2016 16:13

Hauptmann Holston wrote:
Hauptmann Holston wrote: 34 Confirmed Kill Rings!

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Does anyone know what badge the commander has under his tunic eagle?

Anyone have any more information about this photo?

I have seen it attributed as the following:

Oberleutnant Bodo Spranz, Chef 1.Batterie/Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 237/330.Infanterie-Division/ IX.Armee-Korps/4.Armee/Heeresgruppe Mitte, with his crew and StuG III Ausf.G. (c. Mid.'43)

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Re: Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Denniss » 20 Aug 2016 17:01

Pz III wrote:The first photo is of a Stug III Ausf F with the 75mm L/43. I believe this Stug is part of Stug Abt 210.
Barrel is too massive and too short for the 75mm L/43 gun

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Re: Photothread: Assault guns (Sturmgeschütz)

Post by Hauptmann Holston » 20 Aug 2016 20:08

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