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#211

Post by Sander D » 11 Mar 2004, 20:34

Where these posted befor????

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Post by David Lehmann » 11 Mar 2004, 21:10

The helmet on the first photo could also simply be the French cavalry/tanker helmet (drawing from the OSPREY booklet) :
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Post by Bill Murray » 12 Mar 2004, 01:08

David/Panzermeyer:

Just for the record, the vehicle next to the Storch a page or so back is a 1937 Ford. As the number plate is not readable, I have no idea from which country it came but it was surely an impressed vehicle. Not France as they had a different grille, could be from Germany, Holland, Belgium or Danmark.

May I add my sincere thanks for all the photos you are so kindly sharing with us on this subject. My own personal interest is almost entirely in the area of softskin vehicles and even there you have provided many up to now photos that were unknown to me and a valuable addition to my knowledge of "who drove what".

Please keep them coming as you have the time and the energy
Bill

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Post by David Lehmann » 12 Mar 2004, 01:19

Many thanks Bill,

You are welcome, it is sometimes very difficult for me to identify all the trucks and cars ... I compare with other photos but it is not easy since I don't have a complete database and I am a complete rookie .... 3 years agos I knew quite nothing about the 30's and 40's cars and trucks from my own country :) Thanks for your support and corrections, feel free to correct all the mistakes you see.

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Post by David Lehmann » 13 Mar 2004, 00:22

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Post by David Lehmann » 13 Mar 2004, 19:04

Sicherungsfahrzeug Renault UE(f)

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from http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 8115&stc=1

PSW-204(f)

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from http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... 5775&stc=1


Hotchkiss tank (and perhaps Tschetniks)

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Post by David Lehmann » 14 Mar 2004, 03:37

Found on : http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/

An other Renault UE(f) :

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FJR 15, Luxembourg 1944 and what I think is a Renault or Panhard truck :

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a "Prinz Eugen" book cover :

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German Somua S-35s in Paris :

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Hotchkiss in action in Russia in 1941:

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Rumanian R35 :

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Post by David Lehmann » 15 Mar 2004, 14:48

From e-bay, B2(f) tanks on train :
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 2232162262

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Post by David Lehmann » 15 Mar 2004, 16:02

Hello,

I am especially looking for B2(f) Flammpanzer photos in action in 1941 against the Stalin line or in 1942 in the Sevastopol area. If one day you see such a photo in a book, on the net, in a magazine etc. please don't forget me :)

160 B2(f) tanks were used by the German army :
- 18 B2(f) with 10.5 cm howitzers
- 60 B2 flametanks
- 82 B2(f) tanks

The first units equiped with B2 flame tanks were the 7th companies of Pz.Rgt.201 and 202, which were regrouped in 1941 in Pz.Abt.102 and engaged on the eastern front. Char B2(f) and B2(f) flame tanks were used during Barbarossa to reduce and destroy Russian fortifications in the summer of 1941. Pz.Abt.213 was later equiped with B2 tanks and stationned in French islands in the Channel.

Panzer-Abteilung 206 was formed in November 1941 at Satory (near Paris), this battalion was used as a reserve unit for the 7.Armee. Wedged in Cherbourg, this unit was destroyed there. Its composition in beginning 1944 included 2 companies of 10 Hotchkiss H-39 and 4 Somua S-35 (in each company) and one "Stab Kompanie" of 3 Renault B2, 3 Renault B2 flamethrower, 2 Somua S-35 and 2 Renault R-35. Many such small units were formed with French booty/converted tanks like the 100. Panzer Abteilung commited to 91. ID in Normandy in 1944 (1 Somua S-35, 8 Hotchkiss H-39, 14 Renault R-35, 1 Flammenwerferpanzer Renault B2 (f), 1 PzIII and 5 FT17c) and the 21. Pz.D. included many French tanks.

Pz.Abt.223 was formed (attached to 22.PzD) with Char B2 flame tanks and was engaged in fightings near Sevastopol in 1942. This unit was then expanded to include 2 panzer companies and command elements with a second company composed of 5 Pzkpfw.B2 and 12 Pzkpfw.B2 (Fl).

Different other units were also equiped with B2(f) tanks : Pz.Abt.224 in the Netherlands, two companies of the Pz.Rgt.100 in France and one company of 17 Pzkpfw.B2 from SS Pz.Abt.7 (SS Prinz Eugen division) in the Balkans.

In February 1945, 40 B2(f) tanks were still in service in the German army.


Thanks !

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David
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#221

Post by Sander D » 15 Mar 2004, 21:41

From an expired E-bay auction

He didden't liked his new hous.

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Post by David Lehmann » 15 Mar 2004, 21:46

Nice photo Sander !
mmm perhaps a "terrorist's house" ?

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Post by Kissa » 15 Mar 2004, 23:59

Renault FT-17 is sexy :).

No wonder the French and even the Germans used it in WW2, that thing was a chick magnet!

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Post by David Lehmann » 18 Mar 2004, 20:48

A French Panhard 178 with a frame antenna among captured Hungarian and German equipments..

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Post by David Lehmann » 19 Mar 2004, 00:23

From http://www.history.jp/wehrmacht/ :

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PSW-204(f) from AA92 (20.Panzer-Division) in Russia and funerals

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