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T-34/85, or what is left of it. Any idea what could have destroyed the thing?
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Perhaps it was destroyed by Finnish kasapanos (piled up charge ). The charge weighted sometimes ten kilos or more and was very effective agaisnt AFVs. Kasapanos was basicly a grenade, coated with large amount of explosives.
Other possibility is that the armor was penetrated by the gun of StuG IIIG or PAK 40 AT-gun which caused the ammunition blow up.
Other possibility is that the armor was penetrated by the gun of StuG IIIG or PAK 40 AT-gun which caused the ammunition blow up.
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An very famous photograph.Christian W. wrote:T-34/85, or what is left of it. Any idea what could have destroyed the thing?
I quote Harri:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... light=taliAlthough not seen from these photos (I think all these photos are from a movie) this T-34 was destroyed by German StuG IIIG of Stug.Brigade 303 at point blank position not seen in the lowest photo. German vehicles were only slightly left to the point where the T-34 burns after an internal explosion (just a tiny white spot in the photo).
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Christian W. wrote:T-34/85, or what is left of it. Any idea what could have destroyed the thing?
My namesake once wrote:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ht=#171042Juha #1 wrote:A little background to the pic with destroyed T-34,if you don't mind.
Pic was taken 30.6.44.This T-34 was one of 2 Russian tanks who had gone thru frontlines in Tali-Ihanta battle and was aproaching Ihantala village.Troops in the area were told that Finnish tanks might appear,they would be idenfield by east turned gun and those 2 tanks had their guns turned to East(Finnish Armoured Division had also few T-34 tanks).
As tanks were just few meters away,men noticed red stars in their turrets(stars were not easily seen because dirt and smut from exhaust pipes).Other tank went to right and was soon destroyed.The T-34 in pic advanced one km and then turned back and headed back to Russian lines.But Finnish antitank teams were waiting.First an shell from German Stug of 2./303.Stug.Brigade hit it to side armour.T-34 stopped and man jumped from turret.As he started run towards frontline with pistol in his hand,Panzerfaust fired by Corporal from GunCompany/12IR hit the tank.T-34 exploted.
As Russian tankcommander fled,he ran to private Viljanen and wounted him by shooting thru his chest.Private Arvi Peräsalo was close but his rifle was in his back.In desperate effort he picked large stone from ground and threw it toward Russian.Russian throught it was handgrenade and changed his running direction towards Finns in foxholes and was shot and killed.He turned out to be an officer,some said he was a Major.
The pic was taken few hours later and tanks is still burning.The men in pic are Sergeant Kaarlo Niemelä on the left and Sergeant Heino Nikulassi on right.Both men are from II/IR12 and experienced tank destroyers.Niemelä (age 24 from Salla) destroyed 3 KV and 1,5 T-34 and Nikulassi (27 from Kemijärvi) destroyed 1 JS and 2-T34.Nikulassi was killed next day.
So that's that pics story.
Cheers/Juha
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And if one could read thru that horrible excuse of English..
Sources were:Käkelä-Marskin Panssarintuhoajat
Pohjamo-Jänkäjääkärit II
That wreck of T-34 was pictured quite of many times from differend angles.Why?,because it was well behind front lines.And according the Kuusela-Wehrmachtin Panssarit Suomessa,the victorius Sturm was from 3./303.Stug.Brigade.Unteroffizier Willy Obeldobel(mayby Stug.nmo.44?).
Thanks #2
Cheers/#1
Sources were:Käkelä-Marskin Panssarintuhoajat
Pohjamo-Jänkäjääkärit II
That wreck of T-34 was pictured quite of many times from differend angles.Why?,because it was well behind front lines.And according the Kuusela-Wehrmachtin Panssarit Suomessa,the victorius Sturm was from 3./303.Stug.Brigade.Unteroffizier Willy Obeldobel(mayby Stug.nmo.44?).
Thanks #2
Cheers/#1
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gasmasktrooper has already posted two photos of this knocked out Panther, but hey, aller guten Dinge sind drei, nicht wahr ?
...damn, that's one big fat dead cat...
( source: http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/artykuly/des ... estroy.htm )
...damn, that's one big fat dead cat...
( source: http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/artykuly/des ... estroy.htm )
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Something looks off on that picture. Are those Red Army chaps tiny? I stand 5'11" (1,81m), and I am quite sure that I am taller than a Panther hull.Trommelfeuer wrote:gasmasktrooper has already posted two photos of this knocked out Panther, but hey, aller guten Dinge sind drei, nicht wahr ?
...damn, that's one big fat dead cat...
( source: http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/artykuly/des ... estroy.htm )
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Have you ever stood near to a real Panther ?
http://www.polo-freak.de/panzer/images/DSC01084.jpg
It is quite taller than most people think !
Jan-Hendrik
http://www.polo-freak.de/panzer/images/DSC01084.jpg
It is quite taller than most people think !
Jan-Hendrik