► Destroyed and battle damaged AFVs

[hein]

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[hein]

Source Kenny 50 J.C.

Villers Bocage 18/07/1944

[davethelight]

That picture of the Porsche Tiger with the hole in the side of it's turret is very interesting. It looks like quite a big hole, and would need to have been a powerful gun to penetrate the armour on that part of the turret. Any ideas on what made the hole, ie tank, gun?

[Ome_Joop]

seeing these pics i started to think about something....Are there pics of tanks being destroyed by aircraft (guns only)?
As the germans needed big guns (Bk3.7 for instanse on the Ju-87g) to destroy tanks so what would the guns of a P-51/P-47/Typhoon achieve...

[hein]

Hello Davethelight,

Could it be the anti tank-round from a 6-pounder gun ?
I am not a specialist but it can be.

Type "H" tank shot by a 6-pounder gun



A 6-pounder gun



The hull after British firing tests






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mr Kenny 50
mr Saak

P.s : Also you can take a look at this brilliant specialised website, with lots
of unique pictures and information of the Tiger tank.

http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html

[Miha Grcar]

My two cents:

[davethelight]

Hello Hein.
I would not have thought a 6 pounder would have the power to penetrate a Porsche KT on the side of it's turret. I'm no expert, but I thought the 6 pounder shell was only about 57milimetres wide, and the armour on the side of Porsche KT was about 80 milimetres thick, and sloped.
Am I mistaken?

[hein]

Hello Davethelight

you are wright...
Maybe somebody else can give the wright answer here

Regards,

Hein

[Ultramagnus]

Hello Hein.
I would not have thought a 6 pounder would have the power to penetrate a Porsche KT on the side of it's turret. I'm no expert, but I thought the 6 pounder shell was only about 57milimetres wide, and the armour on the side of Porsche KT was about 80 milimetres thick, and sloped.
Am I mistaken?

It's very close indeed, the 6 pd gun penetrated just a bit more than 100mm armor at 500 meters,the Porsche KT turret side had about the the same vertical equivalent protection so I say,it's not unimageable that a 6pd with L/52 caliberl could penetrate it at short range.

[hein]

Could it be a 17-Pounder A/T Gun or a 17 Pounder Sherman Firefly ?

[davethelight]

Could it be a 17-Pounder A/T Gun or a 17 Pounder Sherman Firefly ?

That seems a more likely possibility hein.

[RoW]

T-34 passes by destroyed Pz3

[Ingo]

Hello,

does anybody know what this could be? Thanks.

[Shc]

My two cents:

Destroyed Panther in Normandy:

Wow, don't you love pics in colors??
It adds a new dimension and details to the Panther

[PanzerKing]

Hello Hein.
I would not have thought a 6 pounder would have the power to penetrate a Porsche KT on the side of it's turret. I'm no expert, but I thought the 6 pounder shell was only about 57milimetres wide, and the armour on the side of Porsche KT was about 80 milimetres thick, and sloped.
Am I mistaken?

I thought the max penetration for a British 57mm gun was 78mm?