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Bill,
thanks for the i/d. If you look on the photo, you can just make out the number plate "WL 436292". The plate actually sits below the white paint on the fender that appears to have been censored. The photo came with a lot of Luftwaffe pic's, mostly technicians and workshops and there is at least 1 more shot of the same vehicle. I'll post some of the other pic's of other trucks in the next few days so that you can i/d these.
thanks for the i/d. If you look on the photo, you can just make out the number plate "WL 436292". The plate actually sits below the white paint on the fender that appears to have been censored. The photo came with a lot of Luftwaffe pic's, mostly technicians and workshops and there is at least 1 more shot of the same vehicle. I'll post some of the other pic's of other trucks in the next few days so that you can i/d these.
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Hi Bill
Once again thankyou. You say in the other thread that many civilian vehicles were comandeered by the Reichswehr so I guess the picture of the civilian tractor is one of these. Could it have been used for towing other vehicles? Other photo shows pranged vehicle.
Best regards
Larrister
Once again thankyou. You say in the other thread that many civilian vehicles were comandeered by the Reichswehr so I guess the picture of the civilian tractor is one of these. Could it have been used for towing other vehicles? Other photo shows pranged vehicle.
Best regards
Larrister
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Larrister:
Sad about the Benz. Looks like no seat belts resulted in a couple of heads cracking the windscreens.
The Buessing Nag is really cute, but I cannot ID it. Never seen anything like it. I suspect it is late twenties early thirties though.
As to vehicle conscription, I have a lot of information but nothing that ties the whole thing together. The impression that I have formed, not official by any means, is more or less as follows.
Passenger cars: In Germany and most likely all occupied countries, these were fair game. There was a war on and people just had to understand that the fairly robust cars of the day were ideal for umbau or kubel conversion or could be used as found.
Light commercial vehicles: Probably not so bad in Germany as they tried for a long time to maintain a "normal" distribution of goods/food/medicines throughout the country. Not so good in the occupied countries who were left to rely on other forms of transport such as horses and waggons.
Medium to heavy commercial vehicles: Seem to have been least affected in Germany and in the occupied countries to depend on age, scarcity of parts for limited production vehicles etc. Also, a lot of the heavies were not real good for military use.
Tractors (Zug) seem to have been conscripted quite heavily whether in Germany or the occupied countries.
In terms of volumes, it was an incredible amount of machinery. I would suspect 10s of thousands of vehicles in total, bearing in mind that Germany conquered virtually all of Western Europe which is where most of the suitable vehicles were located.
Hopefully, someone will be able to document this part of history for us.
Almost all of the conscripted vehicle photos I have in my collection have a license/number plate on them whether it be WH, WL, WM or whichever.
Given the German mind set about everything will be documented, they must have somewhere in a dusty archive records of what was conscripted and what plate was assigned to the vehicle along with a description of the vehicle and from whom it was taken.
Anyone want to search for that batch of records?????
Bill
Sad about the Benz. Looks like no seat belts resulted in a couple of heads cracking the windscreens.
The Buessing Nag is really cute, but I cannot ID it. Never seen anything like it. I suspect it is late twenties early thirties though.
As to vehicle conscription, I have a lot of information but nothing that ties the whole thing together. The impression that I have formed, not official by any means, is more or less as follows.
Passenger cars: In Germany and most likely all occupied countries, these were fair game. There was a war on and people just had to understand that the fairly robust cars of the day were ideal for umbau or kubel conversion or could be used as found.
Light commercial vehicles: Probably not so bad in Germany as they tried for a long time to maintain a "normal" distribution of goods/food/medicines throughout the country. Not so good in the occupied countries who were left to rely on other forms of transport such as horses and waggons.
Medium to heavy commercial vehicles: Seem to have been least affected in Germany and in the occupied countries to depend on age, scarcity of parts for limited production vehicles etc. Also, a lot of the heavies were not real good for military use.
Tractors (Zug) seem to have been conscripted quite heavily whether in Germany or the occupied countries.
In terms of volumes, it was an incredible amount of machinery. I would suspect 10s of thousands of vehicles in total, bearing in mind that Germany conquered virtually all of Western Europe which is where most of the suitable vehicles were located.
Hopefully, someone will be able to document this part of history for us.
Almost all of the conscripted vehicle photos I have in my collection have a license/number plate on them whether it be WH, WL, WM or whichever.
Given the German mind set about everything will be documented, they must have somewhere in a dusty archive records of what was conscripted and what plate was assigned to the vehicle along with a description of the vehicle and from whom it was taken.
Anyone want to search for that batch of records?????
Bill
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Evening gentlemen, Buenas Tardes Nacho:
ID time:
Nacho, your first picture is an Opel Olympia 1.3 litre of 1935/37 most likely German conscripted. The second is a Peugot 402B of probably 1939 and for sure conscripted.
Porsche: Your Gravel Enterprises truck is a Henschel 33G1 of 1931-1941.
Very similar trucks were made by Krupp (L3H163) and MB (LG3000) for the RW and then passed on to the Wermacht. The Henschel was kept in production quite a long time.
Larrister: Your small convoy is at least for the first one A Buessing G3 or a Magirus M206. I am guessing a Buessing as I have photos of a very similar truck. These trucks were an attempt on the part of the RW to have a standardized range of light 6x4 vehicles suitable for both civilian and military use. The project was not particularly successful although the trucks seem to have served on until used up. Your other pic is a Horch KFZ15.
ID time:
Nacho, your first picture is an Opel Olympia 1.3 litre of 1935/37 most likely German conscripted. The second is a Peugot 402B of probably 1939 and for sure conscripted.
Porsche: Your Gravel Enterprises truck is a Henschel 33G1 of 1931-1941.
Very similar trucks were made by Krupp (L3H163) and MB (LG3000) for the RW and then passed on to the Wermacht. The Henschel was kept in production quite a long time.
Larrister: Your small convoy is at least for the first one A Buessing G3 or a Magirus M206. I am guessing a Buessing as I have photos of a very similar truck. These trucks were an attempt on the part of the RW to have a standardized range of light 6x4 vehicles suitable for both civilian and military use. The project was not particularly successful although the trucks seem to have served on until used up. Your other pic is a Horch KFZ15.
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What is this vehicle and its use ? The unit is a Nebelwerfer Abteilung apparently despite the Reichswehr immatriculation.
Regards,
David
What is this vehicle and its use ? The unit is a Nebelwerfer Abteilung apparently despite the Reichswehr immatriculation.
Regards,
David