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► Photothread: SS Vehicle License Plate Photo Database

Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 11:38

SS Vehicle pictures with license plate - Database

You can post your pictures here :

- NO Museum picture

- NO renactement photos please

- License plate legible !

- All plate that begins with 0 (SS-08526) usually belongs to test or factory vehicle.

- The prefix SS missing for "Ardennes-Bulge" plates.


- Source as far as possible and copyright on the picture ( book scanning )

We will try to dress the picture with :

1. Number license plate
2. Model (Kfz,sdkfz...)
3. Unit
4. Picture location ( Front - city )
5. Date

The official list reckons that +/- 960 000 vehicles :

SS-1 ( Himmler BMW ) to SS-952161 ( opel blitz unit unknow - Hungary 1945 ) for the last number I saw...

This thread represents only a limited database ( of course )

More information :

http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/nummern ... ilung2.htm
http://www.ssocr.com/waffenss/wss_license.htm

HJ list Italian vehicles :
12.SS pioneer's bridging column, chassis numbers and number plates are included. Document is dated 23/4/44 and IIRC same vehicles were on strength 5/6/44.
Source is microfilm from US National Archives, T354 154.
And John Winwood Waffen SS license plate list :

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1059080764


Thanks a lot

Fred

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Listing with pictures
update with new post

SS-1085 LSSAH aufkl. - Sdkfz 221 – Location unknow
files/lssahsdkfz221.jpeg
SS-1087 LSSAH aufkl. - Sdkfz 221 – Poland 1939
files/sdkfz_221_poland_quassowsski_edited.jpg
SS-1088 LSSAH aufkl. - Sdkfz 231 – Yougoslavia or Bulgaria 1941
files/lssah231youg1941.jpg
SS-1194 LSSAH - Mercedes Truck L3000S - ( number 15 on the mudguard ) - France 1940
files/mblkwss-1194_baydeww2.jpeg
SS-1198 LSSAH - Mercedes Truck L3000S - ( number 15 on the mudguard ) - France 1940
files/mblkwss-1198_baydeww2.jpg
SS-1386 LSSAH - Krupp Protze- Amsterdam 1940 ( number 5 at rear )
files/protzeamsterdam1940.jpg
SS-1857 LSSAH - SS.Inf.Rgt - Kübel - Location unknow
files/n_00349_1_ss_kubel_1_.jpeg
SS-2048 2.SS - SS.Inf.Rgt - Kfz 15 Horch? - Russia summer 1941
files/021504_elite_scan0030_1_.jpeg
SS-5931 2.SS - Sdkfz 231/232 - Russian front ( 26 marking on turret )
files/sdkfz231.jpg
SS-5935 2.SS - PSW204(f)- location unknow ( rare black plate )
files/panhard_565.jpg
SS-5954 2.SS - Sdkfz 221/222 - Russian front
files/sdkfz221a.jpg
SS-9517 2.SS - Sdkfz 9 "Famo" - France 1940 or Russia 1941
files/021504_elite_scan0026_1_.jpeg
SS-53004 3.SS – Mercedes – Bayonne – sept 1940
files/mercedes_ss-53004_in_bayonne_010940.jpg
SS-61181 3. SS-Panzerdivision 'Totenkopf' - Krad ( NSU or Gillet (f) ? ) – Russia
files/n_00928.jpeg
SS-76076 LSSAH - PSW-204(f) (Panhard 178) command version - February 1943
files/p-178_radio_modified_with_mg34_lssah_february_1943.jpg
SS-90577 2.SS - light vehicle (BMW?) - Location unknow - 1943/44
files/n_00886.jpeg
SS-108640 5.SS Wiking - SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 5 - SdKfz 221 - Russia
files/n_00917.jpeg
SS-108644 5.SS Wiking - SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 5 - SdKfz 221 – Russia
files/5th_ss_recon_patrol__russia_1942_142.jpg
SS-160820 LSSAH - Sdkfz250 - Max Hansen's staff - Milan -1943
files/milan_1943.jpg
SS-163733 LSSAH - Sdkfz234 "Puma" - Falaise Gap Normandy - 08 1944
files/puma_falaise.jpg
SS-205199 18.SS-Panzer Grenadier Division 'Horst Wessel' Hotchkiss school-driving tank
http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/fo ... chkiss.jpg
SS-205447 2.SS – Truck - location and date unknow
files/006-2303_1_.jpeg
SS-216654 16.PzGr Division (caption) - Opel Blitz - East front – 1944
files/n_00400_16_ss_gr_div_reichfurher_1944.jpg
SS-304016 9.SS Hohenstaufen - VW166 Schwimmwagen - France, winter 1943?
files/schwimmwagen_0221_hummel.jpg
SS-310851 17.SS Götz von Berlichingen/St./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 17 - VW166 Schwimmwagen - near Carentan - 30.06.1944
files/17ssgrschwimkpg_niemarch_vieux28-3006442.jpg


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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 11:47

Picture from eBay " Elite soldiers with gas-mask pell patatoes"

SS-205447 Truck with 2.SS marking, location and date unknow.
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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 11:57

From eBay

SS-9517 Sdkfz 9 "Famo" with 2.SS and "G" marking - France 1940 or Russia 1941.
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Post by Timo » 20 May 2004 12:09

Could be a very interesting thread. Perhaps it's a good idea to stick to posting photos with captions here and discuss the photos in seperate threads?

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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 12:57

SS-1386 LSSAH- Krupp Protze- Amsterdam 1940 ( number 5 at rear )

source : http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1060636199 - collection to John W
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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 13:38

SS-1194 and SS-1198 -Mercedes Truck L3000S - LSSAH ( number 15 on the mudguard ) - France 1940.
Deduction : the same Mercedes truck for SS-1195, 1196, 1197.

source : http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/mbl3000s.htm
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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 14:40

SS-5931 SS.aufkl - 2.SS - Sdkfz 231/232 - Russian front ( 26 marking on turret )
SS-5935 SS.aufkl - 2.SS - Panhard 178(f) - location unknow ( rare black plate )
SS-5954 SS.aufkl - 2.SS - Sdkfz 221/222 - Russian front

We can see three sort of vehicle for 24 numbers serie for this unit.

source : multiple websites and http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/d/ ... /02787.jpg for the Panhard vehicle
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Post by Xavier » 20 May 2004 15:19

@ Bayerlein spirit:


May I suggest and ascending number index, with links to the pictures?

This way will be easier for the researcher/aficionado to look up a particular number plate or relate a unknown, undated picture/location to a picture already identified in the database.

also, it will prevent duplicate uploads/links and we will be able to see if a given number plate was used by two different vehicles in different dates

just my two cents

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Post by Blanusa » 20 May 2004 15:49

Hi Bayerlein Spirit.

I have the following for starters.

900597 - Sd.Kfz 250/3 Neu - 3./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 / 11.SS Nordland - Dünaburg 1944 - "Ragnarök [Twilight of the gods]swedish edition" by Erik Wallin [p.79]
900647 - Sd.Kfz 250/5 Neu - 4./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 / 11.SS Nordland - Estland, july Narwa retreat - Feldgrau.com forum - tactical nr. 402
900915 - Sd.Kfz 250/7 Neu - 3./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 / 11.SS Nordland - Berlin, Germany, may 1945 - "Ragnarök [Twilight of the gods]swedish edition" by Erik Wallin [p.196] - tactical nr. 339
901366 - Sd.Kfz 250/9 Alt - 2./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt. 11 / 11.SS Nordland - Estonia 1944 ? "Tragedy of the Faithful" by Wilhelm Tieke [p.18]

I hope you approve of my style of posting. I do not have any pictures scanned and wish not to post any pictures as I do not want to mess with the copyrights. And if this creates any kind of problems let me know and I will make this post disappear :wink:

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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 18:24

@ Xavier

May I suggest and ascending number index, with links to the pictures?

This way will be easier for the researcher/aficionado to look up a particular number plate or relate a unknown, undated picture/location to a picture already identified in the database.

Also, it will prevent duplicate uploads/links and we will be able to see if a given number plate was used by two different vehicles in different dates


Thanks to your interest, Xavier...

So, your help very appreciate to drive this thread, I don't know how build a listing table in this forum with possible update.
And we can wait many new pictures to add-on one serious listing.

@ nmy

hope you approve of my style of posting. I do not have any pictures scanned and wish not to post any pictures as I do not want to mess with the copyrights. And if this creates any kind of problems let me know and I will make this post disappear



Thanks to you nmy,

Don't worry, it's your thread also, not my property :wink:

You indicate the different source with your information, perfect !
Even though pictures are better " like inquisitor evidence", drive this thread with us, welcome !

Fred

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Post by Xavier » 20 May 2004 18:45

Fred: (I intended to send this as a pm, but I screwed ... :( )

great topic, and as I stated in the public thread, will be very helpful once it grows a little

we could do it this way:

have you seen my thread on dienstglas numbers? I just edit the original post once and again, inserting the new numbers, and references, and we could add a blind link (the kind only shows diff color, not the complete web address) to a posted image elsewhere (like webshots).

I think this will be a great tool, if you have seen my post in the lounge regarding "what is in your bathroom" in fact most of the books there were related to the original idea last week about ss plates, I wanted to see how many I could gather. ( more than a few, in fact)

the main enemy here, is believe it or not, censorship, in one of the books, of about 30 SS plates I considered to be "readables" more than 80% were erased by wartime censors...

I will start to gahter pics and info, and will upload in my photo server not later than monday, and let you know, I will try to post first a sample listing in the test section, for your aproval

very best regards from mexico!!

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Post by David Lehmann » 20 May 2004 19:10

Hello,

SS-5935 is a PSW204(f) from AA2, 2.SS 'Das Reich'

SS-205199 18.SS-Panzer Grenadier Division 'Horst Wessel' Hotchkiss school-driving tank
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SS-76076 LSSAH February 1943 PSW-204(f) (Panhard 178) command version (casemate instead of turret and more developped radio systems) modified with MG34
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Post by Bayerlein spirit » 20 May 2004 20:17

Thanks Xavier and David

Three pictures found on eBay few month ago.

SS-90577 12/.Inf.Rgt 2.SS - light vehicle (BMW?) - Location unknow - 1943/44
SS-108640 SS.aufkl 5.SS Wiking - Sdkfz 221 - Russia
SS-61181 - 3. SS-Panzerdivision 'Totenkopf' - Krad ( NSU or Gillet (f) ? ) - Russia
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Post by Blanusa » 20 May 2004 22:05

Hi again guys.

Here some more.

1513 - Car (towing pak) - 1.SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler - "Spearhead Volume 5: Leibstandarte - Hitler's Elite Bodyguard" (p.80)
It has the tactical marking of Infanterie-Geschütz-Kompanie. Have not yet been able to identify if it is the le.IG or the s.IG kompanie, altgough my guess is the s.IG.

76719 - Car - SS-Kriegsberichter-Zug 3 / 3.SS Totenkopf - Near Arras, France, may 1940 - "Weapons and Fighting Tactics of the Waffen-SS" by Dr.S.Hart & Dr.R.Hart (p.95) and a small picture of this vehicle can be foud on the following thread:
viewtopic.php?t=47381
it's the bottom one :wink: On the left fender is the totenkopf insignia and to the right above the spare tire is the tactical marking for a kriegberichterzug

108644 - Sd.Kfz 221 - SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 5 / 5.SS Wiking - Russia - Squadron Signal, combat troops number 3 'Waffen SS in action' (p.16) also on the following thread:
viewtopic.php?t=44205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
4th picture from the bottom named '5th SS Recon Patrol, Russia 1942.JPG'. Althought here you don't see the actual number.


On a sidenote. Panhard 204(f) SS-5935 is a befehlswagen of 1./Aufkl-Abt.2 / 2.SS Das Reich, eihter France 1940 or Russia 1941. Of the few sources I've seen it's fifty-fifty. My guesses are with before Barbarossa as the vehicle seems "to clean" to have seen any combat. But then again I don't know a lot about this units combat history.


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Post by Blanusa » 20 May 2004 22:22

Previously posted by Bayelein spirit on the following thread:
viewtopic.php?t=47615&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

310851 - VW-166 Schwimmwagen - St./SS-Pz.Aufkl.Abt 17 / 17.SS Götz von Berlichingen - near Carentan-Marchévieux 30.06.1944 - can also be found in Taylor and Benders "Waffen-SS" series. (Vol.4 p.158-159)

Sorry for not asking for permission to use this picture Bayerlein. Feel free to have this post removed if you feel offended.


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