► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 08 Oct 2018 14:40

Bedford with a lot of Balkenkreuzes...
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Oct 2018 12:15

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: Can somebody identify the truck ?

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by dirk Peeters » 09 Oct 2018 12:41

looks a Dodge WC like this one
1941 Dodge WC (3).jpg
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 09 Oct 2018 13:00

Hi Dirk,

You are right. It is a Dodge, but not the American WC. Here it is the Canadian-built version of the US 1941 Dodge 1/2-ton T 207 with the designation T 212/D 8 A (source of the pic: "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert; information: "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen).

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by dirk Peeters » 09 Oct 2018 13:08

wauw Bert this is great
to spot that you re really a professional
ythanks for the addd info
i ll change it in my archive

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by glushenko » 09 Oct 2018 21:57

Captured British tractor "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" in service in the Luftwaffe.
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Jose85 » 10 Oct 2018 08:08

Chevrolet unknown origin, described "Polen 1940"
chevroletlkwmiedzyrzecpodlaskipolen1940.jpg
winter gear Ford 3ton model 1939 (G917?)
fordg917wintercover.jpg
Steyr 640 Kfz.31
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Maxschnauzer » 10 Oct 2018 09:25

Hi Jose,
Interesting cab on the Chevy, Benelux probably. Here's another very similar.
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 10 Oct 2018 15:56

Why is the Steyr 640 on here ?
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Oct 2018 21:48

Bert wrote
You are right. It is a Dodge, but not the American WC. Here it is the Canadian-built version of the US 1941 Dodge 1/2-ton T 207 with the designation T 212/D 8 A (source of the pic: "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert; information: "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen).
Thank you very much for your information, Bert.. :wink:

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by SIS 5 » 11 Oct 2018 09:58

Hi glushenko,

excuse me, please, but the armored vehicle on Your pic is not a Morris-Commercial C 8 FAT. There were three similar vehicles (FAT = field artillery tractors): Morris-Commercial Quad C 8 FA, Guy Quad Ant and the Canadian CMP FGT/CGT (Ford/Chevrolet). Here the drawings of these three vehicles.
I think on Your pic is a captured Canadian CMP FGT/FGT.

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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by ilfil » 11 Oct 2018 21:59

I agree with Bert it is CMP, Morris C8 'Quad' FAT wheel hubs are different, the early body, although similar in shape, is very different in details (windows size for example), etc.
The picture quality is good enough to see when enlarged that the rear diff, although in shadow, is of banjo type. So this is definitely Chevrolet 8440 C-GT. And, if judging from the crowd on the roof, the body for sure is the earliest type 7A1, which in turn suggests cab No. 11.
BTW Bert, you've missed in the list of suspects one of the similar bodied FATs, the somewhat obscured Karrier KT4 Spider. But it was with different front fenders anyway, only few were produced and AFAIK most of them, if not all, went to India. So its chances to be in France in 1940 are almost nil.
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N.B. Bert, your Morris side drawing isn't correct, it is mirrored. On the Mk.I and early Mk.II bodies (hard top with fans) the lower front window is missing, it is present only on the driver's side, i.e. on the right.
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by kerryboo » 11 Oct 2018 22:13

I think the feature which would set off alarm bells first for me is the angled wheel arches. The CMP and Guy offerings had angled arches, as seen on the photos. The easily discounted Spider also had rounded arches. So, either CMP or Guy, but the position of the side lockers on the body, amongst other detail differences, discounts the Guy. I also fully agree with Bert's expert recognition.
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by carius » 09 Nov 2018 13:04

Image from ebay.de №332867391256
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Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Post by dirk Peeters » 09 Nov 2018 16:17

nice 1936

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