► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service
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Bedford with a lot of Balkenkreuzes...
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Hi all,
An image from Ebay: Can somebody identify the truck ?
Sturm78
An image from Ebay: Can somebody identify the truck ?
Sturm78
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looks a Dodge WC like this one
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Hi Dirk,
You are right. It is a Dodge, but not the American WC. Here it is the Canadian-built version of the US 1941 Dodge 1/2-ton T 207 with the designation T 212/D 8 A (source of the pic: "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert; information: "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen).
Best regards
Bert
You are right. It is a Dodge, but not the American WC. Here it is the Canadian-built version of the US 1941 Dodge 1/2-ton T 207 with the designation T 212/D 8 A (source of the pic: "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert; information: "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen).
Best regards
Bert
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wauw Bert this is great
to spot that you re really a professional
ythanks for the addd info
i ll change it in my archive
to spot that you re really a professional
ythanks for the addd info
i ll change it in my archive
Re: ► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service
Captured British tractor "Morris Commercial C8 FAT" in service in the Luftwaffe.
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Chevrolet unknown origin, described "Polen 1940"
winter gear Ford 3ton model 1939 (G917?)
Steyr 640 Kfz.31
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Hi Jose,
Interesting cab on the Chevy, Benelux probably. Here's another very similar.
Interesting cab on the Chevy, Benelux probably. Here's another very similar.
Cheers,
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Thank you very much for your information, Bert..Bert wrote
You are right. It is a Dodge, but not the American WC. Here it is the Canadian-built version of the US 1941 Dodge 1/2-ton T 207 with the designation T 212/D 8 A (source of the pic: "British Military Trucks in Wehrmacht Service" by Jochen Vollert; information: "Historic Military Vehicles Directory" by Bart Vanderveen).
Regards Sturm78
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Hi glushenko,
excuse me, please, but the armored vehicle on Your pic is not a Morris-Commercial C 8 FAT. There were three similar vehicles (FAT = field artillery tractors): Morris-Commercial Quad C 8 FA, Guy Quad Ant and the Canadian CMP FGT/CGT (Ford/Chevrolet). Here the drawings of these three vehicles.
I think on Your pic is a captured Canadian CMP FGT/FGT.
Best regards
Bert
excuse me, please, but the armored vehicle on Your pic is not a Morris-Commercial C 8 FAT. There were three similar vehicles (FAT = field artillery tractors): Morris-Commercial Quad C 8 FA, Guy Quad Ant and the Canadian CMP FGT/CGT (Ford/Chevrolet). Here the drawings of these three vehicles.
I think on Your pic is a captured Canadian CMP FGT/FGT.
Best regards
Bert
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I agree with Bert it is CMP, Morris C8 'Quad' FAT wheel hubs are different, the early body, although similar in shape, is very different in details (windows size for example), etc.
The picture quality is good enough to see when enlarged that the rear diff, although in shadow, is of banjo type. So this is definitely Chevrolet 8440 C-GT. And, if judging from the crowd on the roof, the body for sure is the earliest type 7A1, which in turn suggests cab No. 11.
BTW Bert, you've missed in the list of suspects one of the similar bodied FATs, the somewhat obscured Karrier KT4 Spider. But it was with different front fenders anyway, only few were produced and AFAIK most of them, if not all, went to India. So its chances to be in France in 1940 are almost nil.
Cheers!
N.B. Bert, your Morris side drawing isn't correct, it is mirrored. On the Mk.I and early Mk.II bodies (hard top with fans) the lower front window is missing, it is present only on the driver's side, i.e. on the right.
The picture quality is good enough to see when enlarged that the rear diff, although in shadow, is of banjo type. So this is definitely Chevrolet 8440 C-GT. And, if judging from the crowd on the roof, the body for sure is the earliest type 7A1, which in turn suggests cab No. 11.
BTW Bert, you've missed in the list of suspects one of the similar bodied FATs, the somewhat obscured Karrier KT4 Spider. But it was with different front fenders anyway, only few were produced and AFAIK most of them, if not all, went to India. So its chances to be in France in 1940 are almost nil.
Cheers!
N.B. Bert, your Morris side drawing isn't correct, it is mirrored. On the Mk.I and early Mk.II bodies (hard top with fans) the lower front window is missing, it is present only on the driver's side, i.e. on the right.
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I think the feature which would set off alarm bells first for me is the angled wheel arches. The CMP and Guy offerings had angled arches, as seen on the photos. The easily discounted Spider also had rounded arches. So, either CMP or Guy, but the position of the side lockers on the body, amongst other detail differences, discounts the Guy. I also fully agree with Bert's expert recognition.
Cheers,
Kerry.
Cheers,
Kerry.
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