► Photothread: Allied Vehicles in German Service

Sander D · Post by **Sander D** » 11 Jul 2005 22:00

Bills picture (e-bay1003)

Is a Ford C 11 ADF 4x2 station wagen,according to rad und kette fahrzeuge im einzatz bis 1945 von der Graue Brummer Band 1 .

Steve pictures

( Crane.jpg ) and ( Bedford Kranauto.jpg ) is a fench laffly S35 T with crane .

While searching though my french beute vehicles for steve i came a cros this old e-bay picture ,it not the best quality but
you can defently see a bedford umbau staffwagen .

Seen this conversion befor Rolf,

Cheers

sander

cmpnorge · Post by **cmpnorge** » 12 Jul 2005 21:56

Sander I have not seen that conversion before!
Piity the photo is so bad...

I do like those comamandcar conversions!
So, at this point I have seen photos of Canadian Ford F15, Morris Commercial C8, Morris Commercial CS8 and Bedford MW all as command cars.
Any others??
And anyone know of any sites where any info is written on this?

I am really looking forward to see the book, but guess there will be much more to find out on this subject.

Rolf

Will check out for more photos in my computer....

Bill Murray · Post by **Bill Murray** » 12 Jul 2005 22:35

Hello all:
Just to add to a couple of the photos, Sander's of 06/07 is a 1939 Chevrolet either Aussie or Indian.
Bill's of the following day, 1941 Ford as Rolf said and then the next is the Bedford Rolf ID's and then what appears to be an Adler, a Benz and I cannot ID the third car.
Quite the interesting thread this is turning out to be!!
Cheers
Bill
Edit: The second car may be a Hanomag instead of an Adler. Still researching.
Bill

Bill 13 · Post by **Bill 13** » 12 Jul 2005 22:56

Day All
One More.
Bill

stoveb · Post by **stoveb** » 13 Jul 2005 07:02

Hi Guys,

here are two more images from ebay land, one is certainly a Jeep (even I can't get that wrong!) and the other I think is a Ford EO1Y... but I could be wrong there.

Cheers
Steve

Bill Murray · Post by **Bill Murray** » 13 Jul 2005 11:33

Hi Steve:
Very nice "theatre" shot of the Ford Indian Army type Ford ambulance. I have always thought those Fords of 1939-1941 were especially "handsome" vehicles.
Not a great shot but here is another Ford favorite, the MH converted 3 tonner.
Bill

cmpnorge · Post by **cmpnorge** » 13 Jul 2005 11:54

And it looks like a Ford GP with slategrille on the second photo..

On yours Bill13 it looks like many beutewagens...
In the bacground right side it is a CMP cab 11 or 12
In the foreground it is a Bedford OYC waterbowser hidden under the tilt.. Behind the Horch it looks like a Dodge T110L-9 (or D60L).

Also other beutewagens is to be recognised by how the canvas is folded..

Rolf

Bill Murray · Post by **Bill Murray** » 13 Jul 2005 17:00

Rolf:

I just this minute got my copy of the Tankograd book British Trucks in Wehrmacht Service. It is a must have for sure!!! A fair amount of "known photos" but most are new at least to me. Really liked the section on passenger cars which most collectors tend to ignore.
Cheers
Bill

sdkfz182 · Post by **sdkfz182** » 13 Jul 2005 17:53

Stoveb,

The jeep picture you show here is a Bantam 40 BRC - 1/4ton 4x4 from 1941, Build by Bantam Motor Car Company in Butler Pennsylvania. The Ford model was a little bit different.

Regards, Benno

Trommelfeuer · Post by **Trommelfeuer** » 13 Jul 2005 19:49

Humber II, CMP-Fat-2 (field artillery tractor), and who-knows-what in the desert.

source: http://www.betah.co.il/booksCatalog.asp ... 20Vehicles ( Armor of the Deutsches Afrikakorps )

Bill Murray · Post by **Bill Murray** » 13 Jul 2005 22:56

Hi all:
Just to catch up on some ID matters.

On Bill13's panorama photo, I can see also a number of Ford trucks which I would imagine are impressed German civilian vehicles. Also, the Dodge in the background is valid I think.

Steve's Jeep I would also call a Bantam due to the swiveling headlamps and the wide slat grille.
Trommelfeuer (that is hard for me to type), I believe the vehicle way in the back is a Ford or Chev CMP 3 tonner of which there were many in that theatre.

Keep the photos coming!!!
Bill

stoveb · Post by **stoveb** » 13 Jul 2005 23:54

Hi Guys,

Well it seems a Jeep isn't always just a Jeep...

Thanks for the ID.

Here are some Bedfords, not sure of the types; the last one was captioned Bedford by the seller (I'm not sure if he was right)

Cheers
Steve

stoveb · Post by **stoveb** » 13 Jul 2005 23:57

And a couple more,

Not sure of the types involved here;

Of course, all from ebay

Cheers
Steve

Bill Murray · Post by **Bill Murray** » 14 Jul 2005 00:26

Steve:

Regarding your last series, and great photos they are, I would offer the following opinions:
1: Bedford OYC and a Dodge something.
2: Bedford MWD
3: Commer or Austin 30 cwt, more reserch needed.
4: Skoda plus as yet unknown British vehicle.
5. Skoda
6. Dodge perhaps 3 tonner, need to research some more.

It is now time for dinner and I must keep the wife happy 8)
Bill

stoveb · Post by **stoveb** » 14 Jul 2005 02:09

Hi Bill,

yes indeed, Skoda 6VD, must look at Vanderveen more closely in future, I thought it looked very "Albion-esque", but was wrong... ooops.

Here is a truck I picked up from the ML forum, which is in Italian hands, but looks British or Canadian to me, some sort of Chevrolet or Ford?

cheers
steve

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