► Photothread: Vehicles with unit markings

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 10:44

Hello to all!!!

Friends...you have pic and photo on marks of ( Germans ) units of the vehicles ?
we could discuss about marks of units little known...
Thanks..

SdKfz 221 Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 10:59

HI!!

A SdKfz 164 Hornisse/Nashorn with unknow marking ( To me )

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20 ... flouge.htm

Ace31 · Post by **Ace31** » 04 Jul 2005 12:08

PzKpfw III of 5.SS Panzer Division "Wiking", from http://www.battlefront.co.nz

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 12:34

Thanks Ace..

Steyr- RSO....Skijäger-Brigade 1

http://www.autogallery.org.ru

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 13:06

Tiger I of the 2 WAFFEN SS Das Reich Panzer Divisions

This marking was used during (and also after) the Kursk battle.

http://www.alanhamby.com/Gallery/russia.jpg

Ace31 · Post by **Ace31** » 04 Jul 2005 14:17

MarderIIs of "Grossdeutschland" and a Sdkfz 247 of "Leibstandarte"
From http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/wyka ... w_panc.htm and http://www.wwiivehicles.com

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 14:37

The Black Panther on the turret symbol of Pz.Abt 51

Despite Guderian's warnings, Hitler's desire to employ these tanks in the up-coming "Operation Zitadelle" (the assault on the Kursk salient) conducted to a disaster. Not fully developed Panther were simply too ready to mechanical faults and the engine easily over-heated: of the 200 Panthers the 4th Panzer Armee had on July 4th 1943 (most in the ad-hoc formed 10th Panzerbrigade with panzer abteilung 51 and 52 and the others assigned to several companies of privileged units such as the GD and the IInd SS Panzerkorps's divisions) only 43 were still functional the following day (note that Panther's problems were known as the large complement of tanks to the two battalions was seen as remedy to this). Grossdeautschland Panzerregiment reported to have lost six of its brand new Panthers while moving towards the attack positions because of technical failures. In the mid-day of July 4th the same unit had a quarter of its Panther broken-down and by July 5th it has lost the 80% of its Panthers! Gefreiter Werner Kriegel of Pz.Abt. 51 remembers:

"[...] By the evening of 5th, Pz.Abt. 51 had only 22 Panthers operational. Some 28 were totally destroyed, the rest damaged. My comrades complained about the final final drives and of their engines overheating. The engine compartiment was very tight because of UK equipment (diving equipement) ... On the 8th of July we again headed for Oboyan south of Kursk. Our tank received a hit form a tank gun at the commander's cupola. We carried on the attack with an open hatch and a cracked cupola. My commander shill has the shell ... We lost one tank to one of those heavy assault guns [SU-152], the mantlet was simply penetrated. We also met American tanks [M3A3 Lee-Grant] which were no match for us ... We destroyed a number of T-34s at ranges well over 2,500 meters ..."

He also remembered some other anecdotes to underline Panther's engine compartment defects: it was too tight as it was designed to be fully sealed and did not let a proper flux of air to cool the engine down. Gaskets defects added to this as well.

"Our platoon moved through a pine forest. The vibrations of the heavy tanks resulted in a steady 'rain' of pine needles. After a short time, the first tank broke down, and other followed. We examined the incident. The pineneedles had fallen into the air inlets and blocked it. The respective engines had stopped almost immediately. As a stop-gap solution we welded a perforated bucket over the rear air inlet".

"We were not satisfied with the Maybach. Many problems already occurred before Kursk ... We had some engine fires due to fuel that was spread from the carburators over the hot exhaust. Here it ignited and burned electric linings and gaskets ... Later these problems were generally solved. I, however, won't forget the glowing exhausts. Occasionally, Ivan used to target them at night...

from http://www.geocities.com/desertfox1891/ ... ction.html

http://klub.chip.pl/krzemek/panther.htm

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 14:57

A other "black panther". Inspired by the unofficial insignia, this Panther Ausf.A also has LSSAH etched in the Zimmerit on the turret. R02 identifies it as belonging to Hauptsturmfuehrer Gruhle, adjudant to Obersturmbannfuehrer Peiper who would have used Panther R01...

http://panzers2.tripod.com/panzer123.jpg
http://bsdi.usppp.com/wwiiscalemodels/s ... zer45a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/desertfox1891/ ... ction.html

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 04 Jul 2005 15:07

Hello Francy Ritter

Your foto of the Hornisse Sd.Kfz.164 is from the
Panzerdivision Marcus Wendel , you can see on
the left fender the marking of the division.

Regards Jos

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 15:16

Hello Jos...

It is identical !!!!

David Lehmann · Post by **David Lehmann** » 04 Jul 2005 15:24

Hello,

Grossdeutschland regiment vehicles in Sedan in 1940.

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 15:46

Merci beaucoup monsieur Lehmann .

Thanks for Pic...

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 04 Jul 2005 16:22

A column of Stug.III of the SS.Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 16 in Italy

Unknow city.

http://panzerkeil.dre.hu/harcjarm/stug/ ... al/027.jpg

Ace31 · Post by **Ace31** » 04 Jul 2005 16:44

SdKfz 251 Ausf. C of Panzergruppe Guderian, find here: http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/wyka ... w_panc.htm

Patrice · Post by **Patrice** » 04 Jul 2005 18:12

Hello, a photo of Three Pz IV Ausf G of the 26° Panzer-Division during a Kriegspiel in France 1943 with the insignia of the Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 9.
From 39/45 Magazine
Patrice