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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 07 Jan 2015, 15:49

Maxschnauzer wrote:Mercedes-Benz Typ L 1500 S:
This is a post war picture of a german registered red cross truck in a foreign country. Of note is the clothing of the civilian (50s or 60s) and the west-german (FRG) Zollkennzeichen. A licence plate used for german registered cared to be transfered to a foreign country until the 90s(?). You can still see some of them, even here in the Philippines.

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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 08 Jan 2015, 01:06

Thanks for the info, Chris. I suspected that it was post-war from the license plate, but posted it anyway since it is a "German Red Cross Vehicle" and was built during the period '41-'44. Interesting about the foriegn country, I've never noticed any of those plates here over the years but then again I don't spend a whole lot of time in Manila.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by ilfil » 08 Jan 2015, 10:09

Hi Max!
I think your postwar M-B is 3-tonner. To me it looks typical civilian vehicle in Bundeswehr use, such vehicles are in the "partially militarized" category (Teilmilitarisiert) and in most cases this "militarization" was restricted to green paint (or, later, even 3-colour camo).
AFAIK in those times the 1,5-ton load class was already covered by another vehicle from the same stable, the Unimog.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 08 Jan 2015, 13:18

ilfil wrote:Hi Max!
I think your postwar M-B is 3-tonner. To me it looks typical civilian vehicle in Bundeswehr use, such vehicles are in the "partially militarized" category (Teilmilitarisiert) and in most cases this "militarization" was restricted to green paint (or, later, even 3-colour camo).
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Hi Ilfil.
This is for sure not a de- or partialy militarised (former) Bundeswehr truck. 1. it has a multicolored glossy surface. Bundswehr vehicles until mid 80s were colored flat olive drab all over/ uniformly . 2. the 3-5 to class were AFAIR MANs (if they didn't use refurbished ex US GMCs) with a convertable driver's cabin (Like [some of] the Bw-Unimogs). The enclosed driver's cabin -I think- came with the second / third gen. MANs with flat front. 3. if this was a Bw truck, it would have have military features (or its remains) -like added lights- and towing/ pushing capabilities. Nothing like that is visible. 4. if it were in Bundeswehr use, it could only go to NATO-allied countries and would retain it's military licence plate. It would not use a civilian customs licence plate. The Bundeswehr of the early years (until the 70s) did not really resale their outdated equipment until they were officially phased out and replaced.
I think this is a (former?) civilian truck, serving the (German?) Red Cross. The tone would probably be shades of grey. I cannot say if this a pre-, wartime or post war built truck though. You might be right, that it is a post war built truck.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by ilfil » 08 Jan 2015, 16:43

Hi Chris,
I'm more than sure this M-B is postwar vehicle, most probably it is model L311 3,5-tonner:
http://www.hoddow.de/oldtimerwerbung/L3 ... 20311.html
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 09 Jan 2015, 05:59

Hello guys,
Thanks for the info.
I have to agree with ilfil, after looking more closely at the side of the bonnet it definitely opens like the post-war L311 not the L1500S. It's a litttle more streamlined also.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by kerryboo » 09 Jan 2015, 11:54

I think the nearest ambulance is a Horch, with perhaps a Renault AGC at the back?
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by ilfil » 09 Jan 2015, 15:11

Hi Kerry!
Yep, on the background it is Renault AGC 3 ambulance.

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BTW, I didn't know about 3100 of these were produced within a year, from December 1939 to the end of 1940! Norhing to wonder it is frequent sight on the German pics.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Reichskriegsgericht » 14 Jan 2015, 20:07

Maxschnauzer wrote:An interesting pic of Allied medics with injured German POW and a beute Sd. Kfz. 251, most likely in France or Belgium:
According to my notes this is a US Army Signal Corps photo made in Fel near Chambois in August 1944. It shows an SdKfz 251 of 2.Panzerdivision. The medics are from the Regimental Medical Detachment, 359th InfRgt, 90.InfDiv.

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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 15 Jan 2015, 04:23

Hi Reichskriegsgericht,
Thank you for that very interesting background information!
Do you happen to have any info on this one?
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http://histomil.com/viewtopic.php?f=335&t=13885
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Reichskriegsgericht » 15 Jan 2015, 12:43

Maxschnauzer wrote:Hi Reichskriegsgericht,
Thank you for that very interesting background information!
Do you happen to have any info on this one?
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Hi Maxschnauzer,

sorry, unfortunately I don't have any information on your photo.

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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by SIS 5 » 26 Jan 2015, 17:52

Hi Max,

on 23rd December You posted an interesting pic with Red cross sisters. Could the first truck be a NAG 2-tonner with 65 hp? Here a pic of this truck out of the booklet "Taschenbuch Deutscher LKW-Bau" by Wolfgang H. Gebhardt.

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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 Jan 2015, 01:12

Hello Bert,
That certainly looks like the truck. Thanks for the ID and rare picture.
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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by glushenko » 04 Feb 2015, 16:33

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Re: Photothread: German Red Cross Vehicles

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Post by SIS 5 » 10 Feb 2015, 18:30

Hi,

here a pic of Mercedes-Benz ambulances type L 1500 E (source of the pic: an expired ebay auction).

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