US Cavalry 1876

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Re: US Cavalry 1876

Post by yantaylor » 18 Feb 2024 20:42

One last question, I have been thinking on how to paints the pants on these men, the yellow stripes.
Officers and NCOs have these stripes but I am sure that Trumpters have them too, not sure about Guidon carriers though.
I have only a few books on this subject but I cant find any info on what men had the yellow stripes, I know the troopers never had them as the saying "earn your stripes" emulates, but as I said above not sure about Trumpeter & Guidoneers.
Trumpeters had a dual role in the company, they served as the officers messenger.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: US Cavalry 1876

Post by R Leonard » 25 Feb 2024 17:01

Anybody besides me notice that the soldiers on the Airfix boxtop art are all wielding their weapons in their left hand? Left hands are for the reins (oddly enough it is what the horse is used to feeling) and weapons go in the right hand. There were no all left-handed units in the US Army.

Looking for an online copy of the 1872 regulations but without much success. Some reasonably good reference books I could recommend, but they're a little pricey. I've had mine for 50 plus years, and I sure would not shake out the cash for a copy now.

In the meantime, you might want to look at

https://history.army.mil/html/museums/u ... ey_uwa.pdf

http://www.buffalosoldiers-washington.c ... ders92.pdf

https://www.ccsutlery.com/store/media/p ... Guide2.pdf

And for a small foray to the amusingly interesting
"John Ford's Cavalry Trilogy - Myth or Reality"
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA211796.pdf
There is some discussion on the authenticity of the period uniforms as shown in each of the movies in the trilogy which might help you avoid an anachronism.
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Re: US Cavalry 1876

Post by R Leonard » 25 Feb 2024 17:43

Ah, here you go, I knew it was out there someplace because I had a PDF copy.

Regulations for the Uniform and Dress of the Army of the United States, July, 1872
https://archive.org/details/regulationsforun1872unit
or for the PDF version
https://ia802902.us.archive.org/12/item ... 72unit.pdf

Oh, and your bugler should have double yellow stripes on his trouser seams, Guidon bearers, I do not believe, wore anything distinctive at which one could point and say "oh, see that? That means he's a guidon bearer."

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Re: US Cavalry 1876

Post by daveshoup2MarDiv » 01 Mar 2024 21:48

R Leonard wrote:
25 Feb 2024 17:01
Anybody besides me notice that the soldiers on the Airfix boxtop art are all wielding their weapons in their left hand? Left hands are for the reins (oddly enough it is what the horse is used to feeling) and weapons go in the right hand. There were no all left-handed units in the US Army.

Looking for an online copy of the 1872 regulations but without much success. Some reasonably good reference books I could recommend, but they're a little pricey. I've had mine for 50 plus years, and I sure would not shake out the cash for a copy now.

In the meantime, you might want to look at

https://history.army.mil/html/museums/u ... ey_uwa.pdf

http://www.buffalosoldiers-washington.c ... ders92.pdf

https://www.ccsutlery.com/store/media/p ... Guide2.pdf

And for a small foray to the amusingly interesting
"John Ford's Cavalry Trilogy - Myth or Reality"
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA211796.pdf
There is some discussion on the authenticity of the period uniforms as shown in each of the movies in the trilogy which might help you avoid an anachronism.
Thanks for the link to the John Ford paper; interesting reading. ;)

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