Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

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Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 26 Sep 2010 15:06

Hello all, :D

After taking a long break , I will start a new build. I shall build an USN Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35.

The first Destroyer Escorts built in the US were ordered under Lend-lease for the UK in early 1941. The original 50 was expanded to 250 early in 1942 , but only 55 off 250 were actually transferred to the UK , all the others remained in US hands.

Of the 1005 Destroyer Escorts ordered by 1943 , only 563 were completed , including 56 ships completed as high speed transports (APD).

At first there was the Evarts Class or short hulls with a hull length of 289" 5' with a beam of 35" and draught of 10". These shallow draught saved many DE from U-boat attack.

Then there was the Buckley Class , Cannon Class and Edsal Class or long hulls , with a lenght of 306" with a beam of
36" 10' and a draught of 14". The difference between these ships was the power plant.

All these ships had 3 x3'/50cal guns , twin 40mm gun and up to 8 x 20mm guns, a torpedo tube was installed in the middle of the ship , later in the war these torpedo tubes were removed and extra AA was installed , especially on the ships in the pacific.

Later models of destroyer Escorts were the John C. Butler Class and Rudderow Class. Dimensions was the same as the long hull Destroyer Escorts , but they had a lower silhouette , Main battery was 2 5/'38Caliber guns , twin 40mm gun and up to 10 x 20 mm guns , some models had there twin 40 replaced by quad 40.

Camouflage on these ship was from one single colour , Navy Blue 5-N , up to a multi colour ship ,
ie , in Measure 32 ,Design 11D Light Gray 5-L, Ocean Gray 5-O , and Dull Black on all vertical places , Deck was painted in Black and Deck Blue 5-O.

The APD's were painted in a mixture of greens , brown and black.

The model I will be building will be 2m 665 x 31 cm or almost 9 feet by 1 foot.

I do not know exactly which boat I shall build , but it will be one of the long hulls.

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This is how the DE's look like ,more photo's will follow.

regards,

Himmelhund

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 01 Oct 2010 16:21

Hello all, :D

I will use once again the vacuum forming technique to make the hull. I have to make some moulds to do so . The hull will be made from 4 different moulds , aft , center and 2 front moulds. One advantage working with moulds is , you can use them over and over again , so you can make different DE's with these moulds. I cut out the contours of the hull glue on the frames and the start has been made.

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this is the center part in proces. This mould is +- 100 cm long

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photo's of the aft part.This mould is also +- 100 cm long

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front starboard mould.

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the 2 moulds temporarely placed together.

regards, :wink:

Himmelhund

PS can anyone explain me why the whole photo is not shown? :? :?

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 15 Oct 2010 19:19

hello all, :D

now it is time to fill in all the voids , this I will be done with styrene foam , MDF , and styrene strip.

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work under way on the center part.

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the aft part in progress

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front port side , only styrene strips need to be glued on.

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the center part nearly complete , left finished , right need to be sanded.

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one side finished of the aft part.

regards, :wink:

Himmelhund

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by Fatboy Coxy » 16 Oct 2010 10:20

Hi Himmelhund

USS Buckley was laid down 29 June 1942, launched 9 January 1943, commisioned 30 April 1943, a total of 306 days.

If your building this model on a scale of 1/35, the 306 days divided by 35 gives you 8.7 day, round it up to 9! :lol:

How many days work (totallying your hours up) do you think it will take to complete?

Steve
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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 21 Oct 2010 18:39

hello Fatboy coxy,

I hope I can make my model in 306 days , just in time to enter my model in the local hobby club contest.

some more photo's;

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one front part completed.

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aft part and center part completed. Just finishing the last mould ( port side) this week.

I hope my styrene sheets come in next week , than the fun part can begin.

regards,

Himmelhund

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by Fatboy Coxy » 25 Oct 2010 19:10

Hi Himmelhund

Your skill is undoubted, but is this hobby expensive for you, do you have a budget or an idea how much this model will cost in materials? Has modelling got cheaper or more expensive?

Steve
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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 02 Nov 2010 21:04

hello all,

now that all 4 moulds are finished and my new supply of styrene plates have arrived the fun part can begin forming

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I first cut out some plates with the exact form as the bottom of the mould , some discs are glued on it. I do this that no air will be trapped.

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I cut out a large piece of styrene plate and clamp it between the frame.

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I place the MDF plate onto the forming table.

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onto this I place the mould , now I heat up the oven , after a while the soffend styrene plate starts to sag , I turn off the oven and start the vacuum pump.

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I lower the frame with soffend styrene plate and let the pump do the rest.

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I roughly cut out the form , flip it over remove the MDF plate and mark the bottom of the mould , flip it over once more and remove the mould out off the form.

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This is how it look like until now . I have to repeat this process 3 more times , then the complete hull has been formed.

Fatboy coxy , forming the complete hull will cost me about 60 €.

regards,

Himmelhund

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by JeroenV » 10 Nov 2010 16:11

Himmelhund, I have been looking forward to see your work again since you stopped working on the flottentorpedoboot.

Your skill is absolutely humbling. I will soon start my first scratchbuild and am inspired by your work. Keep up this great projects!

Jeroen

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 16 Nov 2010 19:07

hello all,

not that much done the last week. :oops:

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the moulds

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the complete hull formed.

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here I have cut out the parts I need to build the hull. Now it is time to cut out the frames and place them in the hul.

stay tuned,

regards,

Himmelhund

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by Gerfaut » 22 Nov 2010 12:41

I hope I can make my model in 306 days , just in time to enter my model in the local hobby club contest.
8O 8O 8O

Sep 2011 ??

8-) 8-)

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by reichpilot » 24 Nov 2010 23:59

Himmelhund! That looks like a great project! Do you run a hobbyshop? I noticed all the boxes of unbuilt kits in the background. Looks like my basement! What happened to that beautiful German boat you were building? That was a BEAUTY!

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 06 Dec 2010 19:10

hello all,

have been working on my DE , not that much as I wanted , I hope I can do more now.

first I start with the aft section , I glue a piece of strip in the center and glue the 2halves together.

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Then I cut out the longitudinal frame and mark all the frames.

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Then I cut out all the frames , bearing in mind minus the thickness off the form , also look at the camber.

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here I have placed all the frames inside the hull , this is also how it will look like in the end but much stronger.

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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by Fatboy Coxy » 06 Dec 2010 20:26

I noticed a Music System, or stack at the back of the room, can I ask for a request to be played, how about Ship Building by Elvis Costello 8-)

Steve
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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by lalo » 15 Dec 2010 11:10

.... 8O 8O 8O Increhíble. Magnificent ... Congratulations on your project.! ... Thanks for the tutorial. Sincerely ... Jorge. 8-)
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Re: Destroyer Escort in scale 1/35

Post by himmelhund » 17 Dec 2010 20:31

hello all,

@ Fatboy coxy : I was more thinking about Reise Reise by Rammstein.

some more photo's of my build.

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aft section under construction.

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aft section nearly complete.

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aft section complete.

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aft section with some deck supports in place.

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center section under construction , seen from frame 13

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center section complete.

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aft and center section bolted together.

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front section under construction.

enjoy, :wink:

Himmelhund

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