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Camofluage schemes

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Post by Blitzkreig » 10 May 2003, 00:53

Hey guys....im building a diorama, goign to be small sicne its my first but im trying to have a very high historical accuracy...so my question is, does anyone know of any web sites out there that contain the schemes used in the whermacht and SS towerds 1944 in france and baveria and possibly italy? this would be greatly appreciated!!! thanks,
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Re: Camofluage schemes

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Post by ckleisch » 10 May 2003, 01:04

Blitzkreig wrote:Hey guys....im building a diorama, goign to be small sicne its my first but im trying to have a very high historical accuracy...so my question is, does anyone know of any web sites out there that contain the schemes used in the whermacht and SS towerds 1944 in france and baveria and possibly italy? this would be greatly appreciated!!! thanks,
-Brian
In your diorama that you are seeking to incorporate camoflouge you need to be more specific. Which battle area have you settled upon? What armor or equipment will be in it? Is this what you are seeking camo for or is it uniforms. I have reference books on subject just need to know what to look up. Things were different per area. Are you seeking 100percent accuracy I assume you are?
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Post by Blitzkreig » 11 May 2003, 19:47

Actully i narrowed it down to the battles in and around the seine river in france, with the 12th SS panzer divios,"Hitlerjugend" i believe the name of it was. In my Diorama im using a opel blitz fuel truck, and a german flakpanzer IV WirbelWind, and going on the scehemes implemented by the whermacht and SS in august 1944...since thats when those battles took place. i did alot of research and found out the schemes on the vehicles, but not for the men. so anything ya got for that time period...color pictures..wodded areas or anything would be greatly appreciated so i can get a mind set on what to use..thanks!
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Post by ckleisch » 11 May 2003, 21:30

Here are a few items that may assist you.
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Post by ckleisch » 11 May 2003, 21:38

Here is a few more:
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Post by ckleisch » 11 May 2003, 21:39

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Post by ckleisch » 11 May 2003, 21:40

lets try again:
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Post by Blitzkreig » 12 May 2003, 00:58

Awesome man...thanks alot. You wouldnt by chance know of any websites out ereh that you got those pics from? i know acthing panzer and some other website...but im looking for color photos cuz those help out alot more...again thanks!
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Post by ckleisch » 12 May 2003, 01:03

There is a re enactors sight on the WEB look up 12SS Hitler Jugend. They have pics of the unit in camo and such but they are copyrighted. However, their accuracy is first rate. Few pictures in color are around of the unit except in the black uniform shown. However, in and around Caen they wore the camos like in the pic of the man and a officer.
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Post by Blitzkreig » 13 May 2003, 00:27

....jusYup defiantly going to do that. Well i just wanted to let you know since you helped me out alot...that im actully co-doing this diorama with a teacher of mine from school...im a senior in highschool and i graduate in 4 weeks so im donating this to the school and him since hes a big WW2 freak like me...so its going to be tuff balancing this every day after school with him and having soccer and my girlfriend to tend to..nto to mention my grades :lol: ...so anwyays if ya come across any more information...itd be greatly appreciated!! thanks again!
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From:http://www.hohenstaufen.org

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Post by Javichu » 13 May 2003, 00:43

From:http://www.hohenstaufen.org
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Post by Javichu » 13 May 2003, 01:12

I don´t know if this could help...Some time (Many Years :cry: ) ago I made a 12SS PzIV at Normandy.After some research I found that:
Many 12SS Tankers (Together with 1SS, I believe) used "liberated" UBoote crew leather suits in black.Both Jacket and Trousers
A fair amount of Italian cammo cloth was also "liberated" by 1st SS after Italian capitulation and was brought by them to Normandy where it was used -Among other units- By 12 SS Grenadiers...So the clothes of a typical 12Ss Infantry soldier could be : Peas 44 cammo jacket and Italian Cammo trousers.
Also tanks officers used privately tailored Italian cammo clothes (Jackets)
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Post by Blitzkreig » 13 May 2003, 03:54

YOU ARE A GOD....lol thats all i have to say. ive been looking endlessly for pics of color photes of their uniforms so i could get a good idea...THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
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Post by Blitzkreig » 17 May 2003, 00:27

well sort of doing a up-date thing...in the diorama i finished the opel-blitz truck with detail and decals...all painted..that thing was a huge PAIN....98% done with the feld kuche (field kitchen)...thats looking sweet...next up is the felgemarien (sp?) and the mg-42 crew...with lastly...sigh...the wirbelwind whihc will end my life... :lol:
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Post by Paul Timms » 17 May 2003, 09:32

Although its possibly a bit late in the day for you, the best sites for clour are modern suppliers for re enactors. I use them as reference and those re enactors are pretty demanding about accuracy. See below

http://www.1944militaria.com/waffen_ss_camouflage.htm
http://www.germanmilitaria.com/WaffenSS/01Uniforms.html
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