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Help on painting King Tiger

Post by Jagdtiger-T-U » 09 Nov 2003 04:33

Hi, I've built and spray painted (Panzer Gray) my Tamiya 1/35 King Tiger. The next step is to put on Camo. Can someone help me find some real photographs or models that people have made? My camo. for my other tanks are black stripes on top of thicker light gray on the base coat of panzer gray, is it really a true camo. for german panzer divisons?

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Jagdtiger :)

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Re: Help on painting King Tiger

Post by WikingSoldat » 09 Nov 2003 13:57

Jagdtiger-T-U wrote:Hi, I've built and spray painted (Panzer Gray) my Tamiya 1/35 King Tiger. The next step is to put on Camo. Can someone help me find some real photographs or models that people have made? My camo. for my other tanks are black stripes on top of thicker light gray on the base coat of panzer gray, is it really a true camo. for german panzer divisons?

Thank you very much,

Jagdtiger :)


KingTigers where painted dark yellow (tan brown), with fields of dark green and/or rust brown. Some times small spots of the same color where painted, on top of all this, to simulate leafs and sun spots.
DONT use gray or black.

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Post by WikingSoldat » 09 Nov 2003 14:05

Here are some images on models. They belong to this site:
http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/mg/ModelGerm.htm
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Post by WikingSoldat » 09 Nov 2003 14:13

Here is a real one from Bovington in England:
Photo taken by BUDUKUKUK?
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Post by KalaVelka » 09 Nov 2003 17:51

KingTiger -the most beutifull AFV ever! I love it so much, like a panther but stronger :)

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Post by Jagdtiger-T-U » 10 Nov 2003 03:36

Hi, thanks for replying. Is there any good paint strippers that you guys suggests? Since I've painted all my tanks panzer gray with black and gray stripes. My budget is pretty average, I have 200 dollars right now just for modeling.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 10 Nov 2003 13:12

Oven cleaner can be used, but be careful - it's some hefty stuff...

As an alternative, you can always make claims that you are a Film Noir fan, or that you don't believe there existed colours until colour television appeared :P

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Re: Help on painting King Tiger

Post by Timo » 12 Nov 2003 15:10

WikingSoldat wrote:KingTigers where painted dark yellow (tan brown), with fields of dark green and/or rust brown. Some times small spots of the same color where painted, on top of all this, to simulate leafs and sun spots.
DONT use gray or black.


Sorry, but that's incorrect. Basically the used camo patterns were:

- common three-tone (dünkelgelb base with dünkelbraun and dünkelgrün stripes)

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- ambush pattern (red primer base with dünkelgelb and dünkelgrün stripes and spots)

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Other patterns appeared on occasional vehicles but the above mentioned two versions were the most common.

Rust brown wasn't used for anything but the base coat because this was simply the red primer coat used as base for the camo due to paint shortages.

Hope this is of some help,
Timo

all the above posted images are from http://www.missing-lynx.com

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Post by Jagdtiger-T-U » 14 Nov 2003 02:08

Hi,

Thank you for your pictures Timo Worst! They are great help to me! And I was wondering to myself, if the german didn't use panzer gray for their tanks, then what is panzer gray for? I thought panzer gray and german gray is their main source of color.

Thanks for your active replies and helps,

Jagdtiger

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Post by Timo » 14 Nov 2003 06:13

I'm referring to the camo patterns for the Tiger II, not for general german paint scemes. Panzergrau was the early war base coat. The German forces switched to Dunkelgelb in February 1943

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Post by Christoph Awender » 14 Nov 2003 14:48

Hello!

Looking at this Tiger II and also many other professional models I always see a large amount of rust and rusted parts. It looks great but is it really realistic?
How long did a Tiger II life last? A few months is the maximum. So does such a vehicle develop rust after such a short period?

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Post by Orok » 14 Nov 2003 15:20

Rust/mud is done to show off skills/hide mistakes, they have nothing to do with realism! :lol:

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 14 Nov 2003 16:46

The scratches, rust and mud accumulates evry quickly on these tanks. They were painted at the factory, and I don't believe many would be re-painted in the field unless it was absolutely called for.

I looked through a few of my close-up photos, and they releaved a lot small scratces and definately a lot of mud on the lower parts and dust on the upper parts.

While the amount of rust is dificult to see, due to the black-and-white nature of the photos, it would be reasonable to assume that after a short while (in case of rain - DON'T rust your Africa vehicles too much ;)), the scratches would be quite rusty. For example, if a car gets a dent, the area will rust out pretty fast.

Still, there are definately some modellers that overdo the effect, but if we took a real vehicle, with suitable mud and rust, and scaled it down it wouldn't look right. Some level of exaggeration would be needed...

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Re: Help on painting King Tiger

Post by WikingSoldat » 14 Nov 2003 22:45

Timo Worst wrote:
WikingSoldat wrote:KingTigers where painted dark yellow (tan brown), with fields of dark green and/or rust brown. Some times small spots of the same color where painted, on top of all this, to simulate leafs and sun spots.
DONT use gray or black.


Sorry, but that's incorrect. Basically the used camo patterns were:

- common three-tone (dünkelgelb base with dünkelbraun and dünkelgrün stripes)


Yes
- common three-tone (dünkelgelb base with dünkelbraun and dünkelgrün stripes)

Tan, Rust brown and Dark Green is only my generic defenition of the colors. The shades could differ duo to if they have used petrol, water or what ever in the paint. This was added in the field. On top of this spraygun settings could differ. All this makes the shades of color to be different. Its difficult to give an exact color.

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