Well Erich, then you might be able to help me?
I have a black/white photo of a Arado 234-B belonging to 9./KG 76.
I have always wondered how this plane looked in colours....
Erik E
Arado 234-B belonging to 9./KG 76
I'll try.....
Hi Erik !
Hopefully I can help you here on this fine board. Ok, first do you have an RLM colour chart at your disposal ?
Major Hans-Georg Bätcher's unit III./KG 76 flew the Arado 234 B-2 during winter of 44/45 and into February/March of 45. Codes were F1+ ??
The overall aircraft was a very dark green. The undersides were RLM 76 light blue, not the very late blue that was blue/white/light grey, but blue.
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Hopefully I can help you here on this fine board. Ok, first do you have an RLM colour chart at your disposal ?
Major Hans-Georg Bätcher's unit III./KG 76 flew the Arado 234 B-2 during winter of 44/45 and into February/March of 45. Codes were F1+ ??
The overall aircraft was a very dark green. The undersides were RLM 76 light blue, not the very late blue that was blue/white/light grey, but blue.
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slight correction possibly.......just checked one source and it has a beautiful colour photo of on of the KG 76 birds after the war. the undersides are the light white-grey RLM 76 which was a very late addition as the blue pigmentations were running very low. It may be of interest as well as late war Ju 88G-6 nachtjägers have been painted anywhere from light blue to the blue-white grey, as to what stocks were on hand in the field.
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Thanks!
I think I have the RLM chart somewhere....
I would like to build models which has some connection to my home city.
Here is the story of the Ar 234:
A lot of these wonderful planes ended their days just 500 meters from where I live. One of them flew a recon mission over Scotland 5/5-45. This is told to be the last Luftwaffe mission over Great Britain! The Arado still existing in USA was flown from here.
Thanks for your help!
Erik E
I think I have the RLM chart somewhere....
I would like to build models which has some connection to my home city.
Here is the story of the Ar 234:
A lot of these wonderful planes ended their days just 500 meters from where I live. One of them flew a recon mission over Scotland 5/5-45. This is told to be the last Luftwaffe mission over Great Britain! The Arado still existing in USA was flown from here.
Thanks for your help!
Erik E
Only one Luftwaffe unit, KG 76 (Kampfgeschwader or Bomber Wing 76), was equipped with Ar 234 bombers before Germany's surrender. As the production of the Ar 234 B-2 increased in tempo during fall 1944, the unit received its first aircraft and began training at Burg bei Magdeburg. The unit flew its first operations during December 1944 in support of the Ardennes Offensive. Typical missions consisted of pinprick attacks conducted by less than 20 aircraft, each carrying a single 500 kg (1,100 lb.) bomb. The unit participated in the desperate attacks against the Allied bridgehead over the Rhine at Remagen during mid-March 1945, but failed to drop the Ludendorff railway bridge and suffered a number of losses to anti-aircraft fire. The deteriorating war situation, coupled with shortages of fuel and spare parts, prevented KG 76 from flying more than a handful of sorties from late March to the end of the war. The unit conducted its last missions against Soviet forces encircling Berlin during the final days of April. During the first week of May the unit's few surviving aircraft were either dispersed to airfields still in German hands or destroyed to prevent their capture.
The National Air and Space Museum's Blitz, an Arado Ar 234 B-2 bomber carrying Werk Nummer (manufacturer's serial number) 140312, was one of nine Ar 234s surrendered to British forces at Sola airfield near Stavanger, Norway. It is the sole surviving example of an Ar 234. The aircraft had been on strength with 9./KG 76 (Ninth Squadron/ bomber Wing 76) during the final weeks of the war, having served earlier with the unit's eighth squadron. It and three other Ar 234s were collected by the famous "Watson's Whizzers" group of the USAAF (United States Army Air Forces) for shipment to the United States. After flying from Sola to Cherbourg, France on June 24, 1945, the four Ar 234s joined thirty-four other advanced German aircraft aboard the British aircraft carrier HMS Reaper for shipment to the United States. The Reaper departed from Cherbourg on July 20, arriving at Newark, New Jersey eight days later. U. S. Army Air Forces personnel reassembled and flew two Ar 234s, including 140312, to Freeman Field, Indiana, for testing and evaluation. The USAAF assigned the foreign equipment number FE-1010 to this Ar 234 for inventory and tracking purposes.
After receiving new engines and replacement radio and oxygen equipment, FE-1010 was flown to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, in July 1946 and transferred to the Accelerated Service Test Maintenance Section (ASTMS) of the Flight Test Division. After flight-testing was completed on October 16, 1946, the aircraft remained at Wright field until 1947, when it was moved to Orchard Place Airport, Park Ridge, Illinois. On May 1, 1949, the USAF (United States Air Force after 1947) transferred the Ar 234 and other aircraft at Park Ridge to the Smithsonian Institution. During the early 1950s, the airplanes were finally moved to a new Smithsonian storage facility at Suitland, Maryland to await restoration.
Restoration of the Museum's Ar 234 began during 1984 and was completed in February 1989. Because all of the original German paint was stripped off the airframe before the aircraft's transfer to the Smithsonian, restoration specialists applied markings of a typical aircraft of 8./KG 76, the first bomber unit to fly the Blitz. The museum displayed the aircraft during 1993 in the main museum building downtown as part of an exhibit titled "Wonder Weapon? The Arado Ar 234." It is currently in storage at the Paul E. Garber Restoration and Storage Facility awaiting the completion of the museum's new Dulles Center.
Source: http://www.nasm.si.edu/nasm/aero/aircraft/ardrar2.htm
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Hi Erik!!
Nice looking Bird there! Now we all know that Commissar D doesn't know an Arado from a Heinkel, but I did notice that Hasegawa has a 1/48th Scale AR234B-2 scheduled for release in July!!! If it's as good as there Hs-129, you may just forget about the He-219 for a little while. Cheers, D 
that He 219 is a gorgeous model when completed. Besides you should have all three kits eh ? Consider too that the Aradao being a jet and a bomber compared to the big nachtjäger Heinkel 219 which is an altogether different aircraft.Erich,
A quick question. I recall reading about a German Nightfighter pilot who was named
Zur Lippe - something
He was based in Holland (Leeuwarden, Deelen?) and the Dutch allways thought he was related to Prince Bernard, who's family name is Zur Lippe Biesterfeld.
Do you know who this pilot was? I am breaking my head on it but can't recall his full name
Cheers,
Timo
A quick question. I recall reading about a German Nightfighter pilot who was named
Zur Lippe - something
He was based in Holland (Leeuwarden, Deelen?) and the Dutch allways thought he was related to Prince Bernard, who's family name is Zur Lippe Biesterfeld.
Do you know who this pilot was? I am breaking my head on it but can't recall his full name
Cheers,
Timo
My friend:
here you are. Major Egmont Prince zur Lippe-Weissenfeld. 51 Nachtabschüsse. Served in NJG 3 and as Kommodore of NJG 5. Killed in action in Bf 110G-4 werk nummer 720010 coded C9+CD. He actually crashed into the ground when the visibility was 0 !
Died March 12, 1944, Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub on August 2, 1943.
hopefully this is your man Timo
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