I need help to Id. german equipment

[factfndr54]

Sturm,

I think the same device is in your post #146 (14 dec 2012).
Picture filename:
'Fonolocalizador Tepas de origen belga, muy difundido en la D.E.C.A. Republicana.jpg'

[factfndr54]

Sturm,

More information (in Spanish) via:
https://1library.co/article/contrato-em ... r.dzx85knq
https://www.defensa.gob.es/portaldecult ... _01A04.pdf

The contract was for 71 devices, model V-20, type 1940.
German firm involved: AGEKA, which stands for 'Ausfuhrgemeinschaft für Kriegsgerät'

[Sturm78]

factfndr54 wrote
More information (in Spanish) via:
https://1library.co/article/contrato-em ... r.dzx85knq
https://www.defensa.gob.es/portaldecult ... _01A04.pdf

The contract was for 71 devices, model V-20, type 1940.
German firm involved: AGEKA, which stands for 'Ausfuhrgemeinschaft für Kriegsgerät'

Thank you very much for the link...Very interesting information....but I think contains some inaccuracies.
It is said that the sound locators model V-20 type 1940 were captured Belgian material and it is said that were offered to Spain in Jan.1940...

This is impossible as the Germans invaded Belgium in May 1940...

On the other hand, I have not seen any wartime image of one of these sound locators in service with the Belgian Army nor was it photographed by German soldiers during the invasion of Belgium...which makes me suspect about the true origin of these sound locators.

I am not sure but it is very possible that the sound locator in Belgium Army use in 1940 was this model, which looks very different from my previous image....


Any additional image and/or information about Belgian sound locators will be welcome

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[factfndr54]

Sturm,

The Belgian Sound Locators were license-made Tepas-Skoda V20's.
Source (in Dutch): https://18daagseveldtocht.be/artillerie ... uchtdoelen
See picture: https://18daagseveldtocht.be/wp-content ... erpost.jpg

The picture below shows a Swedish example, source:
Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=7568060

1073px-Antiaircraft_defence_Sweden_1940.jpg

For more information on the Spanish devices illustrated in posts #146 and #540 see:
- http://www.griegc.com/2020/08/15/el-fonolocalizador/
- http://totbarcelona.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... de-el.html
- https://p.calameoassets.com/19041111541 ... fa/p33.jpg
Looks like the design is Russian/Soviet

The device shown in #543 still remains a mystery...

[Sturm78]

Hi factfndr54

I am increasingly confused.

The images of the Belgian sound detectors that you have uploaded, whose model seems to be Tepas-Skoda V20, do not look at all like my original image, which seems to be of a model used during the Spanish Civil War, which makes me suspect that it can not be a Tepas model, unless that it be an older model.

According to this, the model Tepas-Skoda V20 used by the Belgian army would be a model of Czechoslovak origin?

Is Tepas the name of the company that manufactures these devices?

As for your idea that the sound locator used in Spain could be of Soviet origin, I have only seen images of this model in use during World War II by the Russians and it is very different from my original image.....

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. Any idea ?

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Any idea about this sound locator ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[Rotwang M]

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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Any ideas about what equipment are using these soldiers and what is their function ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[Hans1906]

Hi Sturm,

probably training photos with the "(Leichter) Gasschutzanzug". (Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe)

Both soldiers wore some of the equipment of the time, and probably spreaded a powdered decontamination agent on the ground from these "cans".
Definitely a recording of an exercise, as the instructor was not wearing a gas mask.

Another internet photo search for "gasschutz wehrmacht" will lead you to more results...


Hans

[Sturm78]

Thank you, Hans

Here, another image from the same Ebay photo serie. Any idea ??
The container of some chemical decontamination agent?

Sturm78

[Hans1906]

Hi Sturm78,

this "box" was probably made of varnished cardboard material, and contained some kind of powdered decontamination agent.
I would assume that the packaging was disposable, but unfortunately enlarging the label does not help much..?

The Nebeltruppe, also thrower troops, was a branch of the army of the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS, which was originally set up for chemical warfare. Retaining this designation, the Nebeltruppe also included the army's rocket artillery, known as Nebelwerfer.

Source and link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebeltruppe

Sorry for no better answer, the best of luck for your further research!


Hans

[Sturm78]

Thanks, Hans

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another two images from Ebay about chemical troops clothing and equipment:

Sturm78

[Hans1906]

Hi Sturm,

very interesting photos, I have never seen the large "leather/canvas holster" in the last photo.

Probably for some kind of device, to sprinkle the decontamination powder, which you can see very clearly from the traces of powder in the photo before.

Many new questions, answers will surely follow here in the forum...


Hans