did any foreign scientsist/designer help bild german weapons

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did any foreign scientsist/designer help bild german weapons

Post by average » 08 Mar 2003 07:30

did any foreign scientsist/designer help bild german weapons like did any non germans make a airplane like a messrschitt? or did they make a new kind of weapon like i think swedish guys made cannons but did anyone else form some counrty do it to?

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Post by Daniel L » 08 Mar 2003 12:24

Sweden did not export any guns to Germany.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 08 Mar 2003 16:02

Actually, they did. The Germans had several 40mm Bofors (spelling?). This was before the war, though...

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 08 Mar 2003 16:48

Not one but a lot. Now I remember the metallic sodium-frozen valves developed by Alfa Romeo italian engineers and finally employed on special high performancing versions of Daimler-Benz DB 605 and DB 603 aero-engines...sorry, but the thread is not about Bofors guns. Moderators are out of theme.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 08 Mar 2003 17:01

Well, the Bofors is Swedish, and thus foreign :P Still, I'll advise Marcus to ban Daniel and me :lol: :lol: :lol:

Also, the Pz.Kpfw. 35(t) and Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) were Checz

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Post by davethelight » 08 Mar 2003 17:08

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The Czeck tanks were built by the Czecks for the Czecks, but were eventualy captured by the Germans, no?
So I don't think they qulify as German weapons that foreign designers helped create.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 08 Mar 2003 17:29

Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) was also produced by the Germans after Skoda had been captured. I suppose that Skoda also helped cunstructing the Jagdpanzer 38...

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Post by davethelight » 09 Mar 2003 12:11

Mmmmmm, I still don't think they count.

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Post by John T » 10 Mar 2003 19:28

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:Actually, they did. The Germans had several 40mm Bofors (spelling?). This was before the war, though...

Christian


Nope,
Sweden never sold any weapons directly to Germany after 1934.
Sweden did buy 40mm guns from Germany but that was captured
Polish guns.

Sweden did also export weapons and licenced production of 40mm guns in Norway, Hungary, Netherlands and Austria.
AFAIK Norway (kongsberg) and Austria (Böhler) keept producing these weapons for German use, mainly Luftwaffe and some to Kriegsmarine.
I think the Hungarians keept their for own use.


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Post by John T » 10 Mar 2003 19:40

Back to the original thread:
But this is in one respect the other way around to your question,
Germans avioding Versailes treaty by researching in Sweden.

Sweden did act as a proxy for German weapon development,
mainly before the Nazi takeover.
Between 1930 and 1934 The German shares in Bofors where sold back to Swedes. (I did handle the files at National archives last week :o)
The first Krupp designed (AAA) 88's where built by Bofors for Dutch naval vessels just after the end of ww1.

Landsverk was for a long time owned by Germans
(I do not have a end date for german ownersghip.)

Germans researching tank development in Sweden,
with the Swedish govenment as the prime buyer of the hardware.
Strv m/38 was the first tank in production using Porches patent for torision bar suspensions.



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Post by ReconMarine » 11 Mar 2003 07:22

Depends on what you consider foreign to be.

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 13 Mar 2003 10:14

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:Well, the Bofors is Swedish, and thus foreign :P Still, I'll advise Marcus to ban Daniel and me :lol: :lol: :lol:

Also, the Pz.Kpfw. 35(t) and Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) were Checz

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Thread was about scientists, every stupid knows that Bofors is swedish. Next time move your 3-tongues on my ass. Idiot.

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Post by Daniel L » 13 Mar 2003 10:25

Thread was about scientists, every stupid knows that Bofors is swedish. Next time move your 3-tongues on my ass. Idiot.


That's enough Gabriel, that kind of language doesn't belong on this forum so cool it!

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Post by Scott Smith » 15 Mar 2003 15:09

davethelight wrote:Mmmmmm, I still don't think they count.

Well, Hitler did. He was very impressed by Skoda works and the Czech industrial contribution to his war-effort.
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Post by Milan Szekelyhidi » 17 Mar 2003 13:15

Hungary produced to Germany:

Airplanes:
Factory: Magyar Királyi Állami Vas-, Acél és Gépgyárak (MÁVAG), Budapest
Engine: Hirth HM-504A2
Airplane: Ar-96B

Factory: Magyar Waggon és Gépgyár Rt. (MWG), Gyõr
Engine: Argus, As-10S, Argus As-411
Airplane: Me-109G, FW-58

Factory: Weiss Manfréd Mûvek Rt. (WM), Budapest
Engine: DB-605A, B, D, Gn-Rh K-14 Krsz., Gn-Rh M-14 Mars

Factory: Dunai Repülõgépgyár Rt., Szigetszentmiklós
Engine: DB-605A, B, D
Airplane: Me-210

Factory: PIRT, Pestszentlõrinc
Airplane: JU-52

Factory: FAG
Engine: DB-605A, B, D (Kõbánya (Budapest), Budatétény, Diósárok, Nagytétény)
Airplane: Me-109G (Kõbánya (Budapest), Budatétény)

Mortars:
Factory: Magyar Királyi Állami Vas-, Acél és Gépgyárak (MÁVAG), Diósgyõr (other name DIMÁVAG)
Factory: Magyar Acélárugyár
Factory: EMAG
Type: 81 mm, 12 cm

Nebelwerfer:
Factory: Weiss Manfréd Mûvek Rt. (WM), Budapest
Type: 15 cm

Anti-aircraft cannons:
Factory: Magyar Királyi Állami Vas-, Acél és Gépgyárak (MÁVAG), Diósgyõr (other name DIMÁVAG)
Type: 8 cm Bofors anti-aircraft cannon, 4 cm Bofors anti-aircraft automatic gun


Source:
Weapons of the Royal Hungarian Army
Hungary in the WW2 lexicon A-Zs

Milán

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