Engineering support of Todt Organization

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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 19 Aug 2023 14:41

Hi otis68,

sorry for my long silence. I has some problems. Now I can continue to give some information and pics about narrow-gauge railways and the tippers. These special tippers were used by the Reichsarbeitsdienst and also by the Organisation Todt. Normally the width of the narrow-gauge railway was 60 mm. Here the four German industrial standards (DIN) for the tippers:

DIN 5961 0,75 cubic meters "for manual operation", curb weight 330 kg, can also be pulled by a horse or a locomotive!
DIN 5962 0,75 cubic meters for locomotiv operation, curb weight 442 kg
DIN 5963 1,00 cubic meters for locomotiv operation, curb weight 770 kg
DIN 5964 1,75 cubic meters for locomotiv operation, curb weight 1370 kg
First an advertising of a factory in Königsberg (Orenstein & Koppel) producing narrow-gauge railways and tippers. Then some pics of tippers used by the RAD (Reichsarbeitsdienst), two of them with narrow-gauge locomotives (second pic with an O & K locomotive type RL 1; fourth pic with a Jung locomotive type ZL 130).

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by T. A. Gardner » 19 Aug 2023 22:39

Wow, I didn't realize that those cars had such a small load capacity each...

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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 20 Aug 2023 22:00

Hi,

here more pics of tippers used by the RAD (Reichsarbeitsdienst), three of them with narrow-gauge locomotives (first pic with an Diema locomotive type DS 24; third and fourth pic O & K locomotive type RL 1).

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 21 Aug 2023 22:12

Hi,

here more pics of tippers:
first pic RAD, pic two until five pics of the Organisation Todt (OT).
The tippers on pic two and three are not German.

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 23 Aug 2023 07:09

Hi,

here more pics of tippers used by the the Organisation Todt (OT) (pic 1 - 3), pic 4 with POWs and pic 5 with a narrow-gauge locomotive (Deutz type OME 117).

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 24 Aug 2023 06:25

Hi,

today not tippers in action, but the first to two tippers in a museum of the "Westwall" and tippers made by the companies Weserhütte and Dolberg.

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by otis68 » 24 Aug 2023 13:30

Good afternoon..Thank you for the wonderful photos. The use of this technique for me suggests that it was taken care of. By 44, the German industry could put only 7 trucks out of 10 that were destroyed to the front. I found one interesting photo. I would like to hear your opinion.
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 25 Aug 2023 18:27

Good evening otis68,

that´s really a very interesting photo.
I could find this pic. It belongs to an article about the history of the coal industry in the USA.
And I could find another pic of this wagon (caption: miners with mine sprinkler inside a mine shaft).
The pic was taken in a coal mine at Benham, Kentucky, USA. Here my opinion: on Your pic we can see a man with a machine sprinkle device and a wagon of a narrow-gauge railway. The machine sprinkle device is connected with the superstructure of this wagon by a hose. It could be a mobile pump system. The other wagon has a water tank, connected with the other wagon by a hose.

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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 02 Sep 2023 20:02

Hi,

here some pics of concrete mixers, four of them with tippers. Pic three, four and five of Organisation Todt (OT).

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by T. A. Gardner » 02 Sep 2023 21:06

SIS 5 wrote:
25 Aug 2023 18:27
Good evening otis68,

that´s really a very interesting photo.
I could find this pic. It belongs to an article about the history of the coal industry in the USA.
And I could find another pic of this wagon (caption: miners with mine sprinkler inside a mine shaft).
The pic was taken in a coal mine at Benham, Kentucky, USA. Here my opinion: on Your pic we can see a man with a machine sprinkle device and a wagon of a narrow-gauge railway. The machine sprinkle device is connected with the superstructure of this wagon by a hose. It could be a mobile pump system. The other wagon has a water tank, connected with the other wagon by a hose.

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Bert
This is a photo of an air compressor and tank unit. The miner in the earlier picture is using a pneumatic hammer drill to put holes in the area to be mined next. These holes would be filled with explosives and detonated to remove a big chunk of rock for processing

Larger drills of this sort come with a stand or leg to take the weight off while in use.

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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 03 Sep 2023 09:51

Hi T.A.,

thank You very much for Your very interesting reply and the pics. I agree with You that this is a photo of an air compressor and tank unit. But I don´t think that the miner is using a pneumatic hammer drill. I remember the caption of the pic: miners with mine sprinkler inside a mine shaft. For me it is a device for destroying the harmful rock or coal dust by working with water as a washing-up liquid for the drilled hole. In this way it is possible to bind the harmful dust. B.t.w. the pics were made about 1919.
In Germany there was a company (Flottmann) which offered some years later a pneumatic hammer drill with a rinsing head to put holes together with binding the harmful dust by water. Here a pic of this device.

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 08 Sep 2023 07:53

Hi,

here three pics of drills (company Flottmann).
First pic of a drill hammer with a rinsing head to bind the harmful dust by water.
Second pic another drill hammer without the rinsing head.
Third pic another drill.

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by SIS 5 » 29 Sep 2023 07:06

Hi,

here some pics of small locomotives used by the Todt Organisation for narrow gage railways.

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Bert
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Re: Engineering support of Todt Organization

Post by T. A. Gardner » 30 Sep 2023 22:01

SIS 5 wrote:
03 Sep 2023 09:51
Hi T.A.,

thank You very much for Your very interesting reply and the pics. I agree with You that this is a photo of an air compressor and tank unit. But I don´t think that the miner is using a pneumatic hammer drill. I remember the caption of the pic: miners with mine sprinkler inside a mine shaft. For me it is a device for destroying the harmful rock or coal dust by working with water as a washing-up liquid for the drilled hole. In this way it is possible to bind the harmful dust. B.t.w. the pics were made about 1919.
In Germany there was a company (Flottmann) which offered some years later a pneumatic hammer drill with a rinsing head to put holes together with binding the harmful dust by water. Here a pic of this device.

Regards

Bert
What that is is a water 'injection' system that feeds water into the drill bit and the bit is hollow with holes at the cutting end. This is done as a combination of coolant and lubricant to make the bit work longer before needing to be changed and resharpened. Here's a photo of a smaller drill bit showing the holes on the cutting end.

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The water injection connection clamps over the bit and allows it to feed water as the bit rotates.

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