'Versailles' Train

[Karl]

I asked this on another thread but nothing came of it so I’m giving it another try. I’m really interested so please humor me:

What happened to the ‘Versailles’ train and anyone know its complete history?

[Schmauser]

Karl, what does #8216 & #8217 mean??

[Bish]

karl, i assume you are referring to the carrige in which the treaty was signed. All i know of it is that after thet treaty, it was placed in a museum. In 1940, Hitler had it returned to the spot were Germany had sign the treaty. After the French surrender, i believe the carrage was destroyed.

[Karl]

Schmauser, it's a secret code.

j/k

Bish, what a pity.

Thanks.

[Karl]

>>>i believe the carrage was destroyed.<<<

Anyone know why it was destroyed and by whom?

[Mark Alinsky]

Well, it was brought back to Berlin and took a direct hit from an Allied bomb in 1945.

[glenn]

i believe it was blown up by the germans
glenn

[Marcus]

If I recall correctly it was destroyed in one of the allied bomb raids.

/Marcus

[Oskar]

Interesting... I thought Hitler ordered it be destroyed so the Allies, should they be successful, would not force him or any other German to sign another treaty alla 1919 on that train. I am not on top of this subject so I could be wrong.

Best,

Oskar

[MadJim]

If I understand the post you folks are talking about the "surrender car"?

This car was used in ww1. When France got beat in 1940, the Germans demanded that the car be pulled from a museaum and brought back to compiegne.

I am pretty sure I have seen a picture of the car just siting on a siding in germany after the war. Beleive it or not a Associated Hobby Manufacturers and Rivvarossi made a HO model of it.

MadJim

[Penrose]

Have you guys ever seen the video of the signing, when hitler does some form of dance?

[Einsamer_Wolf]

I am pretty sure that the infamous dance was in fact fabricatd by British propoaganda.

EW

[Einsamer_Wolf]

If I understand the post you folks are talking about the "surrender car"?

This car was used in ww1. When France got beat in 1940, the Germans demanded that the car be pulled from a museaum and brought back to compiegne.

I am pretty sure I have seen a picture of the car just siting on a siding in germany after the war. Beleive it or not a Associated Hobby Manufacturers and Rivvarossi made a HO model of it.

MadJim

Are those cars still available?

[Xavier]

you mean the "compeigne" car.. (maybe misspelled)

destroyed in berlin...


"......In Foch’s railroad car, Hitler gave the Nazi salute, arm raised. As his generals handed armistice terms to the defeated, dispirited French, he sat at the same table in the same position as Foch but said nothing. Twelve minutes after the French arrived, Hitler stood up, saluted stiffly, and alighted from the car. The whole surrender ceremony was over in fifteen minutes.

During the occupation (1940-44) the Germans laid waste to the entire site. They dynamited the inscribed central granite block, plowed up the avenues, cut down the trees, and took Foch’s railroad car to Berlin, where in 1944 it was destroyed during a British air raid. Only Foch’s statue was left untouched. Why? Hitler wanted the despised victor of 1918 to stand witness to the ruin of his work....... "

from http://stevenlehrer.com/compiegne.htm

regards

XXXavier
the link scrounger