Dienstglas nrs. Database

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Post by lisset » 18 Oct 2007 16:48

The set are made by bmk - Srb & Stys Fabrik Praziser Messinstrumente, Prague, Czech.
BMK being their "makers code".
The flip up eye cups - and the flat objective rings - only this maker.
As a Dienstglas ( Service glass) it was used by the Army.
The T - might indicate that the lens have been coated - although you don't show the large 500mm lens the occulars do appear to be coated.
The Triangle - a lubricant code .
Unfotunatley one of the small occulars is cracked - but this apart it is a nice binocular - I have one BMK set ( without the flip up eye cups ) - they are pretty good.
The eye cups - just to allow for easy cleaning of the lens, but a nice feature not often seen.

Attached below - the state of play with the 10x45's - I now have numbers 2,3 and 4 need a number "1" , if amyone has one marked "1" please drop me a line perhaps we can work something out :).
A fully intact Number "4" would also be good :)
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Post by charlieshu » 18 Oct 2007 16:59

lisset -- Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable information. Yes, the lenses are coated. Do you know what year these would have been made? Thanks again. Charlie

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Post by lisset » 21 Oct 2007 22:13

Charlie , unfortunately I don't know the year they were made in, sorry. :(
james S

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Post by stril » 14 Nov 2007 14:02

Hello
Not related..but interesting perhaps :) Its from Griebens Reiseführer for the Riviera 1927.
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Post by liberafa » 25 Nov 2007 14:24

Hi, I could not get your email address: gruasdealba@hotmail.com to work.
So, I hope you will accept the information below. Best Regards Fred Liberatore Billerica, MA USA.

Hi, I own 4 pairs of WW2 German binoculars, 3 came from ebay, 2 with cases. One
pair I found in a church yard sale were owned by a WW2 veteran. I hope you find
this information useful. Best Regards. Fred Liberatore, Billerica, MA, USA

Dienstglas 7 x 50, 393816, beh, on the left "O" and "+". These binoculars have a reticle
marked "20" on the horizontal with no markings on the verticle. They were
optically ok but badly worn when I bought them on ebay. They have been fully
restored.

Dienstglas 10 x 50, 2230152 blc "+" . No reticle. Black leather case marked on
the inside of the steel closure "rn 42" and on the leather "KSd" "1942" and
"WaA 14" with an eagle and swastika. The case may not belong to these
binoculars. Purchased from ebay. They have been fully restored.

Dienstglas 10 x 50, 8199, blc "+" No reticle. Black leather case marked on the
outside of the steel closure, twice "frn42" and on the leather "43" and a tiny
eagle and swastika plus below "??An44". The case may not belong to these
binoculars. Purchased from ebay. They have been fully restored.

Dienstglas 7 x 50, 2244991 blc+ No reticle. These were found in a local church
yard sale and once belonged to an elderly veteran. Likely captured in France or
Germany. They are optically perfect and have the original strap. They saw heavy
use since the paint is worn off the where hands hold them and the center pivot
is a little loose but still serviceable.

All of the binoculars are black.

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Post by stray03 » 15 Dec 2007 21:23

Found in Relatives house in Italy along with a Pineapple grenade (spoon missing, no explosive, fuse where detonator is connected broken off, Still has traces of Green paint. Smaller than my dummy grenade)

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Dienstglas
6x30
2157893
H/6400



Optics great condition with the regular 40 30 20 10 0 10 20 30 40 all clearly visible (in right lens). Lots of wear and tear on outside though. Kept as it was found.
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Post by liberafa » 18 Dec 2007 00:40

Hi Another pair of Dienstglas binoculars have come my way. 10 x 50, dull black, no reticle, case not original, strap probably not original. They look almost new and show very little wear. The optics are foggged likely from decades of bad storage. No history available other than from an estate in Rhode Island, USA. Marked on the right, "Dienstglas; 10 x 50; 89552, rln+ with the + being blued. I will have them cleaned. No restoration is need. For all practical purposes they are new. More for the data base Fred

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Post by liberafa » 18 Dec 2007 02:16

Please add to my previous posting. The brown, battered leather case may well be original to the Dienstglas 10x50 rln+ 89552 binoculars. There are markings on the clasp on the cover as follows Tuck Tite USA Pat 1590400 Ges Gesch Made in Germany. On the case receiver the brass is marked BREV SGDG Foreign Pats. The black leather strap and swivels may have also been an issue item as the bottom of the barrel was scraped late in the war for military equipment.

Has anyone seen a higher serial number that those listed in the beginning of the forum? Thanks Fred

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Post by naka » 21 Dec 2007 13:26

The highest number I know is rln 101640

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Post by simon spiers » 27 Dec 2007 00:49

Here is another pair for you. Dienstglas 6X30 serial 434980 H/6400 bmj. Bought for me this Christmas by my girlfriend, look like they have been repainted. Glass needs internal clean, collimation is good, but there are fungal growths on the prisms. Overall condition good , case in great condition.
Keep up the good work.
Simon

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Post by ericstrachan » 03 Jan 2008 21:43

Hello,

I have some WWI German binoculars marked Zeiss D.F. 12x50 on the left lens case, and Nr. 07 Artl. on the right. Do you have any info on this pair of binoculars?

Thanks,
Eric

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Post by naka » 15 Jan 2008 07:03

you got the informations you need and there are no more :wink:

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Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » 06 Feb 2008 10:23

Data on my two Voigtlander & Sohn binoculars...

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Dienstglas
6 x 30
2 7 7 5 5 4
ddx • /\ (dot and triangle)

Color/condition/etc: light-brown original paint, lightweight (zinc or aluminium body / 382 kilogram),
chestnut brown bakelite eye-pieces, reticle in right side (good/crisp), black leather strap (origin ?),
no covers/case. Zinc parts not in best shape, paint is cracking and falling off, lenses in good condition.
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Dienstglas
6 x 30
3 3 8 1 3 2
ddx • /\ (dot and triangle)

Color/condition/etc: hand painted in gloss black (light-brown origin), heavyweight (body ? / 690 kilogram),
dark-brown bakelite eye-pieces, reticle in right side (good/crisp), black leather strap (origin ?), no covers.
Case light-brown leather marked Carl Zeiss - Jena, Made in Germany, minor repairs done (probably not the original case).
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waleed

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Re: dienstglas nrs. Database

Post by Johnnypetka » 21 May 2008 18:24

Hi Xavier, I have Carl Zeiss Jena - Dienstglas 6x30 H/6400 with eagle WAa202, Nr. 1917886. Can you help me with some informations about this binoculars? Thank you.

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Post by Xavier » 21 May 2008 20:21

unfortunatly, no, unless there was a set with serial number close enough and provenance in the database
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