First atomic bomb was German !?!

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by OpanaPointer » 23 Aug 2019 02:05

The first atomic bomb was indeed German. It was used to sink the Bismarck. This was done in order to prevent her being sunk.
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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by Richard Anderson » 23 Aug 2019 02:47

OpanaPointer wrote:
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The first atomic bomb was indeed German. It was used to sink the Bismarck. This was done in order to prevent her being sunk.
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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by VWKDF » 29 Aug 2019 20:57

Hi everyone, here are a few more advanced praises we received for our new book on Hans Kammler ..... The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil

“The Hidden Nazi by Dean Reuter is a stunning achievement. This tightly drawn portrait of SS General Hans Kammler takes the reader from his personal life as recalled in interviews with his son through his notorious work supervising construction of underground factories like Mittelwerk-Dora, where Wernher von Braun’s V-2 rockets were built, and at Auschwitz where this ruthless Nazi perfected the gas chambers. Throughout the book Reuter tells a riveting tale of horror, ending with Kammler’s escape from justice. But where to? Finally, I must complement the researchers Colm Lowery and Keith Chester for collecting a massive treasure trove of documents that made this excellent book possible.”
Author: Linda Hunt, Investigative Reporters & Editors Award–winning author of Secret Agenda: The U.S. Government, Nazi Scientists and Project Paperclip, 1945 to 1991.

“Justice delayed is justice denied? Not in this case. At long last, and at the skillful hands of Dean Reuter, aparticularly nasty Nazi has been brought before the bar of history for a lasting sort of justice—the measured but stern judgment of a meticulous historian.”
Author: George F. Will, Pulitzer Prize–winning columnist.

Thank you very much for your interest and support!

Best wishes
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Available to order on Amazon now - release date Oct 8th.
https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Nazi-Unto ... way&sr=8-1
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Post by williamjpellas » 31 Aug 2019 05:03

Andreas wrote:
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A.P.W./U (Ninth Air Force) 96/1945, 373.2 of 19 August 1945, Investigation, Research, Developments and Practical Use of the German Atomic Bomb, Pkts Nos 47 to 53, published by COMNAVEU, 1946.
Why would the Commander of [US] Naval Forces Europe publish a 9th Air Force document? In any case, how are we supposed to know the report (if it exists) says anything else than 'The German atomic bomb was not available for practical use'?


Because US 9th Army Air Force intelligence decided to share it with their US Navy colleagues.

I originally encountered mention of this document in Manfred Griehl's very good book, Luftwaffe Over America. IIRC, he misunderstood a notation in the report, which was listed as "Enclosure A". He (and some other researchers) took this to mean that the REAL report was Enclosure A and that it was missing from the 9th USAAF - COMNAVEU document. It was not. The report WAS "Enclosure A". That is, the entire report was the "enclosure". What Griehl was seeing was US Navy Captain Hickey's one page summary, which was forwarded as the cover page over the USAAF document, if that makes any sense.

I have a copy of the entire document, forwarded to me by the author Robert Wilcox. It is quite interesting, though not quite the smoking gun that its title would seem to indicate. If I can find it in my files, I will dig it out and post the entire text here.

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by AllenM » 13 Sep 2019 00:07

The report is indeed the smoking gun. Intelligence reports are direct and carefully worded. "Practical use" means practical use. Goering stated he did not want to use a weapon that could destroy the world. Those scientists working on the American atomic project expressed the same concern in the book, One World or None. The British knew what was going on as well. While information was tightly controlled during the war, publishing information to save civilian lives did occur regarding credible threats. This happened in England. But General Kammler struck his deal with the Americans, sparing his life and giving them something they wanted and needed.

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by VWKDF » 14 Oct 2019 18:49

Hi All, The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil - the new book on SS General Hans Kammler - is now available for sale. Here are some of the five star reviews received so far on Amazon.com;

5 stars A Must Read
Dean Reuter and team have authored a thrilling and original contribution to the history of World War II. While you might think there isn't much new ground to cover in a subject area that has been written about so extensively, they do so in this deeply researched, yet briskly moving book. This is a must read for all who enjoy World War II and American history, as well as those who simply want to add a good read to their bookshelf. Five stars!

5 stars WOW
"Riveting is an understatement. The fact that we have known zero about Kammler until now makes it all the more compelling. Reuter’s writing style keeps this rolling throughout like a hijacked train."

5 stars Incredible read
Great read. Such an incredible story that is told in a way that keeps you turning pages.

]5 stars Amazing writing and a gripping journey on the hunt for the truth
"I was given an advance copy of this book in return for an honest review of the book . The Hidden Nazi sits in a genre of WW2 books which I don’t often read. At times I find that books of this nature can be hard to follow or are devoid of energy and pace but this book is different. Dean Reuter, Colm Lowery and Keith Chester have done a great job researching and writing this book. Hans Kammler was instrumental in many of Germany’s WW2 building projects for the Third Reich. He helped engineer the most diabolical and efficient killing machines, the Nazi regime’s concentration camps. With ruthless efficiency this ‘old hand Nazi’ was instrumental in Germany’s ability to carry out the holocaust and other war crimes and this places him amongst some of the top henchmen of Hitler and Himmler. He oversaw the construction and manufacture of the Vergeltungswaffen (Vengence weapons V1 & V2) as well as other prototypes for advanced rockets. Documents uncovered in the trios research also show that we was involved in the research of nuclear weapons and long range ballistics that could deliver them to other continents. The teams volume of research is immense and at times groundbreaking. The story reads beautifully and each new piece of evidence pulls you along through the pages as you join the search for the next piece of the puzzle in the ultimate search for Kammler. I have thoroughly enjoyed the book and learned much of the role of Kammler and the SS in the research and development of weapons that played their part in the war and the space race in years to come. Dean Reuter’s writing is superb, he draws you in and takes you on an adventure as the team work towards finding the truth behind what happened to Dr Hans Kammler. A great book and one you will want to add to your library"

Many thanks
CJ
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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by Number24 » 03 Nov 2019 15:09

While doing research for a book about Norsk Hydro, the company that owned the heavy water factory in Rjukan, historians found that heavy water was sent from Norway to Germany in large quantities after the sabotage attacks in 1943 until the end of the war. Until now it was belived Germany gave up getting heavy water after 1943. There are other uses for heavy water, but the main one used in war is for atom bombs and nuclear power.

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by OpanaPointer » 06 Nov 2019 13:15

And the Germans still didn't have a ghost of a chance of building an atomic bomb.
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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by T. A. Gardner » 06 Nov 2019 14:50

Question here: Why would the US want Kammler for anything? The guy was nothing but a slave master. He certainly had no particular expert knowledge in anything the US wanted or needed post war, so why would they be interested in him other than for trial and a hanging?

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by OpanaPointer » 06 Nov 2019 14:53

T. A. Gardner wrote:
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Question here: Why would the US want Kammler for anything? The guy was nothing but a slave master. He certainly had no particular expert knowledge in anything the US wanted or needed post war, so why would they be interested in him other than for trial and a hanging?
Well, if he knew how to make atomic bombs without using technology...


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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by AllenM » 26 Nov 2019 18:04

General Kammler was named plenipotentiary over all advanced weapons development by Hitler. After the 20 July 1944 attempt on his life, the Army High Command fell under suspicion and all secret weapons development fell under SS control. Declassified intelligence reports reveal the Germans were enriching uranium. This required a knowledge of chemistry as well. The Americans chose DuPont de Nemours (see Nylon and Bombs by Pap A. Ndiaye), while the Germans had the world's largest chemical cartel in the world at the time, IG Farben (Interessengemeinschaft Farbenindustrie). IG Farben was also part owner of Norsk Hydro. General Kammler also escorted a number of Peenemünde scientists and technicians who were handed over to the Americans, and several accounts of his alleged suicide circulated after the war. His knowledge of various developments was very valuable to the Americans.

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by T. A. Gardner » 30 Nov 2019 01:48

AllenM wrote:
26 Nov 2019 18:04
General Kammler was named plenipotentiary over all advanced weapons development by Hitler. After the 20 July 1944 attempt on his life, the Army High Command fell under suspicion and all secret weapons development fell under SS control. Declassified intelligence reports reveal the Germans were enriching uranium. This required a knowledge of chemistry as well. The Americans chose DuPont de Nemours (see Nylon and Bombs by Pap A. Ndiaye), while the Germans had the world's largest chemical cartel in the world at the time, IG Farben (Interessengemeinschaft Farbenindustrie). IG Farben was also part owner of Norsk Hydro. General Kammler also escorted a number of Peenemünde scientists and technicians who were handed over to the Americans, and several accounts of his alleged suicide circulated after the war. His knowledge of various developments was very valuable to the Americans.
Can you show that there was any serious German enrichment program beyond tiny laboratory samples going in Germany?

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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by VWKDF » 30 Nov 2019 23:07

Hi Everyone

This new book on Hans Kammler - The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil - was released in the UK this week and it is now available on Amazon.co.uk.

Thanks all for your interest and I hope you enjoy the read and the adventure.

Best wishes
Colm

heres the link to the Amazon UK page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Nazi-Un ... 401&sr=8-1

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You already posted that information.
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Re: First atomic bomb was German !?!

Post by williamjpellas » 06 Dec 2019 04:54

Can you show that there was any serious German enrichment program beyond tiny laboratory samples going in Germany?

Evidently you did not view the Carter Hydrick Oak Ridge presentation video I posted earlier in this thread. Hydrick includes photos of numerous declassified documents which call the standard history of WWII and the development of nuclear weapons into serious question. He also wrote a book titled, Critical Mass. I recommend the Third Edition, which is the most recent and comprehensive.

Here is a link to Hydrick's 2005 engagement at Oak Ridge National Laboratory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kWVnPNQac

Most serious researchers into the various WWII German nuclear weapons projects who are, or have become, naysayers regarding the "Allied Legend" point to the Buna plant in Poland as the likely site of a clandestine uranium enrichment facility. There is also the strong possibility that German research and development was proceeding along pathways to some kind of nuclear weapon which were often very different from the Manhattan Project "tech tree". These included a fusion-fission hybrid bomb that was similar to, but not the same as, conventional boosted fission bombs in the present day. It appears likely to me that an approach utilizing so-called "superdense elements" or compounds was also explored.

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