Any Optics collectors out there?

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Any Optics collectors out there?

Post by Cool-E » 16 Sep 2005 01:22

Some of mine. I collect mgz and mgz40 sights, and 10x80 flak glasses
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Post by Cool-E » 16 Sep 2005 01:24

More stuff
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Post by Cool-E » 16 Sep 2005 17:05

Well, I guesss the answer to my question is "no."

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Post by Sturmmeister » 16 Sep 2005 18:11

I have this one piece of German Optics but I do not know much about it.
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Post by Cool-E » 16 Sep 2005 18:33

That's a scissors scope (also called a rabbit ear scope). The bmk is a code I have not seen before and searching the web for it comes back as Srb & Stys, Fabrik praeziser Messinstrumente, Prag. The H/6400 means there is a reticle pattern in the optics. There are 17.5 mils in one degree, 6400 mils in a full circle, hense the 6400 reference. Two lines at an angle of one mil will be one meter apart at a distance of 1000 meters.

I will try to post pics of some of the other parts later.

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Post by sdkfz182 » 17 Sep 2005 06:12

Hallo Cool-E,

Would you please be so kind and explain me what your picture MVC-760S.JPG is ?

Regards, Benno

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Post by Cool-E » 17 Sep 2005 14:08

sdkfz182 wrote:Hallo Cool-E,

Would you please be so kind and explain me what your picture MVC-760S.JPG is ?

Regards, Benno


That picture is the sight and transit can marked P.Z.z. F 1. This sight was used on mg34 fortress mounts. They may have had other uses that I am not familar with.

Here is a link to a thread about a fortress mount that I have and it shows this sight in the mounted position:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=81520

NOTE: the link may not be "hot" as I am not sure how to do that. You may have to cut and paste

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Post by Xavier » 17 Sep 2005 17:12

me:
my collection is limited to a couple scherenfernrohrs, a couple rudblinkfernrohrs, a couple 3x8's for direct fire, some handheld periscopes and several binoculars, and I mantain a picture database for reference: http://community.webshots.com/user/gruasdealba-reg

btw, I travel to houston now and then due to my line of work (crane & rigging)

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My latest Capture.

Post by lisset » 16 Oct 2005 21:16

A Fta Commander 8x60, bought this last week , she came with a set of green coloured filters- a nice extra to have.
The black paint was not a war time coat- I am busy taking it off at presnet about 75% of it is now gone.
The prisms and lens have been cleaned to return her to 1st Class optical condition as intend to use her.
A huge handful , when seen from the objective end they do catch the eye.
Will pleased with them. :D :D :D :D :D
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Another one.

Post by lisset » 16 Oct 2005 21:44

10X80 Flakglas. A common item perhaps but not in its complete form, the cradle is an absolute bugger to find on its own , trashed ones can be got but working examples - took me three years to pin this one down.

Show, a blc 12x60 with its moving parts exposed and a light unit attached.
The graticule on this set can be adjusted by means of two ports positioned at 6 and 3 o'clock to the right hand occular.
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A few more.

Post by lisset » 19 Oct 2005 10:10

A few more.
The previously seen 8x60 Kommandant Glas.
The flash has made it look washed out , in reality its a nice pea green colour, posted this to show the removal of the overcoated black some of which still remains ingrained into the textured surface - will have to get it out :x
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Kriegsmarine binoculars hand held.

Post by lisset » 19 Oct 2005 10:22

Four hand held sets.
With the exception of the fat commander all others are Zeiss 7x50's.
On the left a Ubootglas - good rubbers but no rainguard , clean and usable binocular.
The focusing is done via a screw fitting which is loacted under the rubber top cap.
Behind in on the let a blc ( Zeiss) in mint order, the black bakalite rain guard is the same as that which is missing from the two Ubootglas.
This is a really great set to use , it just drinks in the light . Outstanding. :D
Back right another Zeiss 7x50 which is absolutely mint.
Completely clear and brillant. The rainguard is leather with 2 x bakalite circles which are inscribed "Benutzer" and " Fixed occular do not adjust". ( same inscription as is on the black rainguard).
The " benutzer" of this type in this condition is extremely rare and impossible to get , condition makes this set special.
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View of benutzers

Post by lisset » 19 Oct 2005 10:33

View of detail on benutzer Kapp and the details on prism housing.
On left prism top Kriegsmarine acceptance mark and binocular number.
This number dates her to a batch of 1,000 made in Nov. 1940 , leading optics expert Hans Seeger knows of only one other from this batch.

The "T" indicates coated lens and that care should be taken in the cleaning of them , the large N just visible on the right prism top indiactes "North Sea Service" , this inluded use in the Atlantic.
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Bentuzer Kapp details.

Post by lisset » 19 Oct 2005 10:49

This binocular one of a batch of 1500 made hans knows of 15 suriving from this batch ( which includes this example ).
The eye piece lens are 19mm in diamater which allows for excellent defination.Once adjusted the stiff occukars provide a fixed focus for the use who on lifting to his eye has no focusing to do and no risk of them being taken out of focus when not in use.
Quite often crew members cut the bakalite caps off and threw them overboard .
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Barr and Stroud.

Post by lisset » 19 Oct 2005 11:02

Two British Barr and Stroud binoculars one a CF41 7x50 , standard Royal navy binocular which remained in service until the 1980's some of these went to the Falklands.
Internal filters for use in all light conditions , quality varies greatly good ones are good and bad ones are ....bad :cry:
Failure of the balsam cement almost always means that on buying one you need to have it cleaned and have the prisms recemented.
The extending anti spary hoods are unique to the Barr and Stroud company , made with over 60 individual pieces of metal they are very "1930's" , not fitted to all sets.
The hoods can be extended by hand and contract / collapse to fit around objectives.
The smaller set is a CF25 7x42 , issued to Fleet Air Arm for use from aircraft.
Internal filters and a click stop focus which allows the focus to be set for individual use.
Lens in both sets coated - something which progressed as the war went on.
german binoculars , Zeissin particular had the edge on Barr and Stroud as the glass used was more often than not superior to that of the British.
I would rate a good Barr and Stroud as being the equal of a Leitz set.
Whilst Zeiss and Leitz fitted desicator ( drying cells) to their sets .
(See the disc on the reverse of the 8x60 set - desicator cells similarly positioned on the blc U-bbotglas and on the front prism housings of the two Zeis models shown.)
Early model "tuna can Leitz sets had none, later leitz models which had "rubber armour" on them had desicator cells built into the prism tops.

Leritz sets ( tuna can) were prone to absorbing moisture through their alloy body and although a good general purpose binocular had drawbacks.
The later models although good could not match Zeiss for quality.

British sets - no drying cells , ports fitted to prism tops to allow them to be purged with nitrogen to remove any moisture which ight have ingresed into the body of the binocular.
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