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Post by corporal george » 20 Feb 2006 20:04

I am looking for good reference pictures of a geman 150cm searchlight or does anyone know if such a light is in a museum in europe.

tia George

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Post by Erik E » 20 Feb 2006 20:43

There are many of them in Norway....
Not sure HOW many, but I`ve seen atleast 7-8 pieces, both in museums, stores and left along the coast.

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Post by Erik E » 20 Feb 2006 20:48

one more....
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Post by jopaerya » 20 Feb 2006 21:27

Hi George

I know for sure that there is "Scheinwerfer 150 cm"
at the museum at Raversijde in Belgium , I don't
know if there are in Holland in museums.

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Post by corporal george » 20 Feb 2006 22:50

thanks all for the quick reply I willl most certainly go to the belgium museum.
greetings George

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Post by TommySoelbergDK » 02 Apr 2007 16:17

Hi
Maybe this will help.
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Post by TommySoelbergDK » 02 Apr 2007 16:18

Hi again
Found 2 more pictures.
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Post by TommySoelbergDK » 02 Apr 2007 16:38

Hi
Here are some books on Flak and Flak Equipment.

Werner Müller; "Flak im Einsatz 1939-45.", 1996, Wölfersheim. ISBN: 3-7909-0562-3. (Uni.Bib.Freib.)
W. M.; "Die Geschütz, Ortungs- und Feuerleitgeräte der schweren Flak. ...", 1988, Friedberg. [S.U.B.H]
[S.U.B.H: Staats- und Universitäts-Bibliothek Hamburg]
W. M.; "Die leichte und mittlere Flak 1906-1945.", 1990, Friedberg.
W. M.; "Die schwere Flak 1933-45, mit den Ortung- & Feuerleitgeräten.",1984, Friedberg.
(Scheinwerfer-story on page 190) 150 cm Flakscheinwerfer 34, replaced the 110 cm version in 1937.
(The Flakscheinwerfer 37 had strength of 1200 Hefner Kerzen/1.200.000 candels.
(Some had "Dunkelsuchgerät" installed. Must be infra red.
W. M.; "Flak auf dem Gefechtsfeld. ...", 1978, Friedberg. (W.-A. bd.51)
W. M.; "8,8 cm Flak.", 1976, Friedberg.

Piekalkiewicz, Janusz; "The Air War: 1939-1945.", 1985(78), Dorset.
J. P.; "Die 8.8 FlaK im Erdkampf-Einsatz.", 1976, Stuttgart.

Schneider, Hugo; Bd.12: "Fliegerabwehr. ...", Zürich, 1982.

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Tommy

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 04 Apr 2007 07:12

TommySoelbergDK wrote:...
(Some had "Dunkelsuchgerät" installed. Must be infra red.
...
Dunkelsuchgerät is a coverup name for a RRH (Ring Richtungs Hörer, an audio detector). The German Flak-artillery did -in general- not make use of IR-equipment (AFAIK!).

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Post by TommySoelbergDK » 04 Apr 2007 16:31

Hi
OK, that was the sound-locators, connected til Scheinwerfers?
I misunderstand the expression.
It was the hole Flakscheinwerferbattery that had the Dunkelheitsgerät, so that they could hear the planes, when they could not see...
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Post by stril » 08 Apr 2007 15:08

Hello
I think you got it wrong when saying that a Dunkelsuchgerät is a cover up name.
Most searchlight positions i have seen(up to 20 identical in my hometown) have 3 vital positions, a position for 150/200 cm searchlight, one for RRH, and one for Leitrichtgeräte. Its the last one that is sometimes refered to as a Dunkelsuchgerät.
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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 09 Apr 2007 04:20

TommySoelbergDK wrote:...
It was the hole Flakscheinwerferbattery that had the Dunkelheitsgerät, so that they could hear the planes, when they could not see...
It was not instead of the searchlights, but in addition to them. On maps you can see descriptions like "150cm Suchscheinwerfer mit Dunkelsuchgerät". like so:

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Post by Grzesio » 14 Apr 2007 10:38

OK, but what on earth is the Dunkelsuchgerät?!
Werner Müller writes "Bei Ausbruch des 2. Weltkrieges war jede Scheinwerferbatterie mit neun 150 cm Flakscheinwerfern 34 oder 37 und dem Dunkelsuchgerät 41 und neun Ringrichterr-Richtungshörern (...) ausgerustet".

And this comes from TM-E 30-451:
(c) For visual searching, a "dark search equipment" (Dunkelsuchgerät 41) is used. This consists of a pair of binoculars (having a few degrees of lateral and vertical movement) mounted on the searchlight. In operation, the searchlight and optical equipment are laid initially by location data furnished from a separate source.

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Post by faf_476 » 16 Apr 2007 03:27

Any of you mates have a searchlights stationed at Utah beach?
Thanks in advance,

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Post by ducatim901 » 18 Apr 2007 07:14

One 150/200cm Scheinwerfer will be visitable at the Atlantikwall museum Noordwijk, it is being resored now.
Jack.

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