searchlights

[corporal george]

I am looking for good reference pictures of a geman 150cm searchlight or does anyone know if such a light is in a museum in europe.

tia George

[Erik E]

There are many of them in Norway....
Not sure HOW many, but I`ve seen atleast 7-8 pieces, both in museums, stores and left along the coast.

EE

[Erik E]

one more....

[jopaerya]

Hi George

I know for sure that there is "Scheinwerfer 150 cm"
at the museum at Raversijde in Belgium , I don't
know if there are in Holland in museums.

Regards Jos

[corporal george]

thanks all for the quick reply I willl most certainly go to the belgium museum.
greetings George

[TommySoelbergDK]

Hi
Maybe this will help.
TS

[TommySoelbergDK]

Hi again
Found 2 more pictures.
TS

[TommySoelbergDK]

Hi
Here are some books on Flak and Flak Equipment.

Werner Müller; "Flak im Einsatz 1939-45.", 1996, Wölfersheim. ISBN: 3-7909-0562-3. (Uni.Bib.Freib.)
W. M.; "Die Geschütz, Ortungs- und Feuerleitgeräte der schweren Flak. ...", 1988, Friedberg. [S.U.B.H]
[S.U.B.H: Staats- und Universitäts-Bibliothek Hamburg]
W. M.; "Die leichte und mittlere Flak 1906-1945.", 1990, Friedberg.
W. M.; "Die schwere Flak 1933-45, mit den Ortung- & Feuerleitgeräten.",1984, Friedberg.
(Scheinwerfer-story on page 190) 150 cm Flakscheinwerfer 34, replaced the 110 cm version in 1937.
(The Flakscheinwerfer 37 had strength of 1200 Hefner Kerzen/1.200.000 candels.
(Some had "Dunkelsuchgerät" installed. Must be infra red.
W. M.; "Flak auf dem Gefechtsfeld. ...", 1978, Friedberg. (W.-A. bd.51)
W. M.; "8,8 cm Flak.", 1976, Friedberg.

Piekalkiewicz, Janusz; "The Air War: 1939-1945.", 1985(78), Dorset.
J. P.; "Die 8.8 FlaK im Erdkampf-Einsatz.", 1976, Stuttgart.

Schneider, Hugo; Bd.12: "Fliegerabwehr. ...", Zürich, 1982.

Kind regards
Tommy

[ChrisMAg2]

...
(Some had "Dunkelsuchgerät" installed. Must be infra red.
...

Dunkelsuchgerät is a coverup name for a RRH (Ring Richtungs Hörer, an audio detector). The German Flak-artillery did -in general- not make use of IR-equipment (AFAIK!).

[TommySoelbergDK]

Hi
OK, that was the sound-locators, connected til Scheinwerfers?
I misunderstand the expression.
It was the hole Flakscheinwerferbattery that had the Dunkelheitsgerät, so that they could hear the planes, when they could not see...
Kind regards
Tommy

[stril]

Hello
I think you got it wrong when saying that a Dunkelsuchgerät is a cover up name.
Most searchlight positions i have seen(up to 20 identical in my hometown) have 3 vital positions, a position for 150/200 cm searchlight, one for RRH, and one for Leitrichtgeräte. Its the last one that is sometimes refered to as a Dunkelsuchgerät.
regards
stril

[ChrisMAg2]

...
It was the hole Flakscheinwerferbattery that had the Dunkelheitsgerät, so that they could hear the planes, when they could not see...

It was not instead of the searchlights, but in addition to them. On maps you can see descriptions like "150cm Suchscheinwerfer mit Dunkelsuchgerät". like so:



Regards
Christian M. Aguilar

[Grzesio]

OK, but what on earth is the Dunkelsuchgerät?!
Werner Müller writes "Bei Ausbruch des 2. Weltkrieges war jede Scheinwerferbatterie mit neun 150 cm Flakscheinwerfern 34 oder 37 und dem Dunkelsuchgerät 41 und neun Ringrichterr-Richtungshörern (...) ausgerustet".

And this comes from TM-E 30-451:
(c) For visual searching, a "dark search equipment" (Dunkelsuchgerät 41) is used. This consists of a pair of binoculars (having a few degrees of lateral and vertical movement) mounted on the searchlight. In operation, the searchlight and optical equipment are laid initially by location data furnished from a separate source.

Regards

Grzesio

[faf_476]

Any of you mates have a searchlights stationed at Utah beach?
Thanks in advance,

[ducatim901]

One 150/200cm Scheinwerfer will be visitable at the Atlantikwall museum Noordwijk, it is being resored now.
Jack.