WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

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WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Heartfeltzero » 14 Oct 2022 20:38

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Johann was born on July 5th 1922 in Asten, Austria. He served in the Kriegsmarine with the 57. Vorpostenflottille and was the rank of Matrosenobergefreiter. He was killed in action on May 15th 1944 in Trondheim, Norway. I’m unsure how he was killed.
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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Hans1906 » 15 Oct 2022 11:21

As a faithful son to the world war
So you were chosen -
And now, dear, we have
Lost you forever
The hope of a resurrection
Transfigures the pain to see you again.
Such last "poems" were usually suggested by the newspaper publishers of the time and then selected by the bereaved.
Everything rhymed in the German language, unfortunately not in a translation.

As you can see in the above obituary, almost always inaccurate, and that was certainly due to the large number of obituaries at the time...

Thank you for sharing!


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P.S. I have a big heart for such simple "Ephemera", as they reflect the suffering and pain of the bereaved.
Always moving, I understand why so many people collect evidence like this.
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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Hohlladung » 15 Oct 2022 19:40

Hi,

According to this source, there was an attack of a British Battle Group against Rörvik and Stadtlandet on the 14./15. May 1944:

https://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/44-05.htm

Eine 2. Kampfgruppe mit den Geleitträgern Emperor und Striker, den Kreuzern Sheffield und Royalist und den Zerstörern Onslow, Obedient, Ursa, Wakeful, Piorun und Blyskawica stößt am 14. und 15.5. zweimal auf Rörvik und Stadlandet vor und erzielt mit Trägerflugzeugen zahlreiche Nahtreffer auf vor Anker liegenden dt. Schiffen, jedoch keinen Versenkungserfolg.

Rörvik is ca. 160 km north of Trondheim. Maybe he was KIA during this raid.

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Post by Hans1906 » 15 Oct 2022 20:11

Thanks Armin,

It's good to read how much a little obituary notice "says", together with a picture, finally there is a story.
Perhaps there are still relatives after all these many years, that would be desirable.

A good topic, thank you very much.


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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Hohlladung » 15 Oct 2022 20:29

Heratfeltzero,

allow one correction:

Johann Wolfsöldner is not from Asten in Austria, but from Asten (Tittmoning) Bavaria in Germany, as he is listed also here on a local monument plate:

http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2010/titt ... u2_bay.htm

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Armin
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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Heartfeltzero » 16 Oct 2022 01:44

Hohlladung wrote:
15 Oct 2022 20:29
Heratfeltzero,

allow one correction:

Johann Wolfsöldner is not from Asten in Austria, but from Asten (Tittmoning) Bavaria in Germany, as he is listed also here on a local monument plate:

http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2010/titt ... u2_bay.htm

Best regards
Armin
Thank you for the correction!

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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Heartfeltzero » 16 Oct 2022 01:44

Hohlladung wrote:
15 Oct 2022 19:40
Hi,

According to this source, there was an attack of a British Battle Group against Rörvik and Stadtlandet on the 14./15. May 1944:

https://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/44-05.htm

Eine 2. Kampfgruppe mit den Geleitträgern Emperor und Striker, den Kreuzern Sheffield und Royalist und den Zerstörern Onslow, Obedient, Ursa, Wakeful, Piorun und Blyskawica stößt am 14. und 15.5. zweimal auf Rörvik und Stadlandet vor und erzielt mit Trägerflugzeugen zahlreiche Nahtreffer auf vor Anker liegenden dt. Schiffen, jedoch keinen Versenkungserfolg.

Rörvik is ca. 160 km north of Trondheim. Maybe he was KIA during this raid.

Best regards

Armin
Definitely makes sense, dates add up. Thanks!

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Re: WW2 Death Card of Kriegsmarine member Johann Wolfsöldner.

Post by Heartfeltzero » 16 Oct 2022 01:45

Hans1906 wrote:
15 Oct 2022 11:21
As a faithful son to the world war
So you were chosen -
And now, dear, we have
Lost you forever
The hope of a resurrection
Transfigures the pain to see you again.
Such last "poems" were usually suggested by the newspaper publishers of the time and then selected by the bereaved.
Everything rhymed in the German language, unfortunately not in a translation.

As you can see in the above obituary, almost always inaccurate, and that was certainly due to the large number of obituaries at the time...

Thank you for sharing!


Hans
P.S. I have a big heart for such simple "Ephemera", as they reflect the suffering and pain of the bereaved.
Always moving, I understand why so many people collect evidence like this.
I didn’t know that, thanks!

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