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Which Müller is this?

Post by Ian Sayer » 30 May 2021 17:04

Ok. I have to admit defeat! After 41 years I cannot accurately establish which Müller this is. The signature came from the Ray Rawlins Collection of Historical Autographs. What's on this is all I have. The pencil notes at the bottom are mine. I have checked all the usual suspects to no avail.
Can anybody help please.
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 30 May 2021 17:25

The only K Müller I can find is Karl Alexander von Müller but I don't have any signature to compare it against.

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 09:53

Thanks Hucks. Yes I did have him down as a possibility. I also wish I could find another signature to compare.
I will check to see if there are any of his books signed. Regards
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A few more stragglers

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 12:49

Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. I know the Professor is A Keyssler and the card was signed in Berlin in 1930. Any guesses?
Obviously these are mainly obscure characters but I hate leaving them in a folder without knowing what their names are at least.
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Here are a few more

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 12:50

Some extras
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 31 May 2021 14:20

The first one is a Hauptmann Pockrandt who is listed as a Hauptmann in the 1944 rank list and as having previously served in Inf.Rgt 43. Can't find a first name though.

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 14:30

Great .Well done Hucks.
Many thanks.
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 31 May 2021 14:36

Second one might be Karl-Robert Menge (DoB 02-12-1893) - information via Larry deZeng & Doug Stankey's LW Officer Career Lists:

MENGE, Karl-Robert. (DOB: 02.12.93). c.01.10.38 Maj., appt Kdr. II./Flak-Rgt. 13. 09.10.39 Maj.,
Kdr. II./Flak-Rgt. 13, appt Kdr. I./Flak-Rgt. 3. 06.40 Obstlt., appt Kdr. Flak-Lehr-Rgt. (to 04.41).
07.41 appt Kdr. Flak-Rgt. 33 (to 17.10.44). 01.03.42 promo to Oberst. 27.02.44 Oberst, appt Kdr. 2.
Flak-Brig. (to c.30.03.45 - ill).

Dates seem slightly out but the date on the citation might relate to when it should of been awarded rather then when it actually was.

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 14:42

Yes that looks right Hucks. Thanks very much for taking the trouble
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 14:53

Hi again Hucks. Your reference to the LW Officer Career List reminded me that I hadn't checked it for a while so I had another look and I have now identified the Luftwaffe Major as Heinrich Koops so that's three kills for you in a day!
Thanks for that tip.
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 31 May 2021 15:41

That's not a bad strike rate. Let's see if this makes it four - the last one:
Looks to be a von and the surname starting with a H.
The 1942 DAL has a Hauptmann GF (Graf Freiherr ??) von Hahn having served with Pz.Aufkl.Abt 57 at the start of the war.
A January 1940 6.Armee Stellenbesetzung shows a Rittmeister d.R Höhn in command of Aufkl.Abt 254 which seems to fit the bill especially if the transcriber who has put those details online has missed out the von.
Still can't find a first name though other than a Rudolf Höhn who served in Pz.Rgt 31 in 1939 (and Pz.Rgt 6 before that).

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 31 May 2021 17:29

Found him by a fluke. Thought I would try the surname Höhn and date of death of 1941 in the KIA Cards on Ancestry and up he popped - Dr Otto Höhn. Born 5th October 1896 in Köln and killed by artillery 20th August 1941 while commander of Aufkl.Abt 254 at a place called Malpea (Reval). He lies in the war cemetery at Tallinn Maarjamäe.
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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 17:32

Brilliant! Nearly an ace in a day Hicks😳😀👋🏻👍🤣Welk done and thanks a lot . Best Ian

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by Ian Sayer » 31 May 2021 17:33

So the v was an ‘o’?

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Re: Third Reich signatures.

Post by hucks216 » 31 May 2021 17:39

Ian Sayer wrote:
31 May 2021 17:33
So the v was an ‘o’?
Yep, could well have been or even his way of doing Dr.

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