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Re: Dunkirk

Post by OpanaPointer » 13 Jan 2018 00:36

Until they make movies for free the moguls will decide what gets made. They owe no allegiance to anything but the bottom line.

I have my copy and will be watching it after supper.
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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Gooner1 » 25 Jan 2018 11:56

OpanaPointer wrote:I actually got Gallup to do their graphs on public opinion regarding the war,
Gallup did an opinion poll in the UK regarding the war in June 1940 - 3% thought Britain would lose.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by OpanaPointer » 25 Jan 2018 18:00

Gooner1 wrote:
OpanaPointer wrote:I actually got Gallup to do their graphs on public opinion regarding the war,
Gallup did an opinion poll in the UK regarding the war in June 1940 - 3% thought Britain would lose.
Q: How bloody-minded are you gets?

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by MarkF617 » 13 Feb 2018 17:45

Hello,

From what I've heard the common perception was that we would do better after the French surrender as we had no dodgy allies to hold us back!

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by OpanaPointer » 01 Mar 2018 15:06

MarkF617 wrote:Hello,

From what I've heard the common perception was that we would do better after the French surrender as we had no dodgy allies to hold us back!

Mark.
Churchill proposed Union with France before the fall, so a large part of whatever they would have called that Union would have been in German hands for most of the war. Awkward, that. :lol:
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Re: Dunkirk

Post by HaroldK » 28 Mar 2018 11:36

MarkF617 wrote:Hello,

From what I've heard the common perception was that we would do better after the French surrender as we had no dodgy allies to hold us back!

Mark.
While that sounds funny, I very much doubt that was the case. Still chuckled at that, not going to lie lol.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Felix C » 20 May 2018 02:58

I know I am late to the party, Just watched it for the first,second time.

The officer in the night time lifeboat scene is the same one who was rescued by the Moonstone and later caused the teenager to be fatally injured? I understand Nolan deliberately skewed the timeline.

The only character I found interesting is the civilian capt. of the Moonstone.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Michael Dorosh » 23 Jul 2018 16:04

Felix C wrote:
20 May 2018 02:58
I know I am late to the party, Just watched it for the first,second time.

The officer in the night time lifeboat scene is the same one who was rescued by the Moonstone and later caused the teenager to be fatally injured? I understand Nolan deliberately skewed the timeline.

The only character I found interesting is the civilian capt. of the Moonstone.
I had the same reaction as many in the last few pages. I actually didn't fully understand the chronology of the film (the onscreen titles just confused me - 1 week, 1 hour, etc.) and I didn't realize until after I got home and read the online reviews that the timelines for the fighter pilot and the ship were compressed. I'm usually more interested in characters than special effects - but I did find the aerial sequences compelling for the most part, until the final dogfight where an unpowered fighter is able to down a bomber and land safely - seemed to be more suited for Walt Disney or Amazing Stories or something.

The characters were mostly uninteresting, all looked very much alike, and some didn't even have names. There was nothing compelling about the story, and there were no real stakes here. Since there was no background provided to any of the characters, I had no reason to care about whether or not they escaped their predicament. As far as that goes, the producers did well to avoid clichés (pictures of the pregnant wife back home to produce pathos for example) and tried to make up for it by chopping up the chronology. A good effort, but I didn't find it an enjoyable exercise at all. Also in common with others, I found the beaches too clean and it just seemed like those queues of soldiers were there because the plot demanded it, I never had a sense I was looking at the actual Dunkirk operation.

It was nice to see the French and British given a bit of due, but once again Commonwealth directors have focused on hand-wringing a disaster instead of focusing on one of the military victories - the French, Australians, Canadians, British etc. did occasionally have those.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Michael Dorosh » 23 Jul 2018 16:07

MarkF617 wrote:
13 Feb 2018 17:45
Hello,

From what I've heard the common perception was that we would do better after the French surrender as we had no dodgy allies to hold us back!

Mark.
Had Hitler invaded England in the autumn of 1940, one of the few equipped divisions in the southern UK was 1st Canadian, and even they were still trying to get up to strength with modern transport, MGs, artillery, etc. (and 2nd Canadian was just arriving). Perhaps not dodgy, but the Canadian units had a long way to go before they could operate effectively as formations.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Paul Lakowski » 23 Jul 2018 22:41

I loved the musical score cued with imagery.

I Got the real sense of how beaten the Anglo/French were at that point.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by B Hellqvist » 24 Jul 2018 10:38

Paul Lakowski wrote:
23 Jul 2018 22:41
I loved the musical score cued with imagery.
The soundtrack is better than the movie.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by Paul Lakowski » 24 Jul 2018 23:56

B Hellqvist wrote:
24 Jul 2018 10:38
Paul Lakowski wrote:
23 Jul 2018 22:41
I loved the musical score cued with imagery.
The soundtrack is better than the movie.

that's about right, as is true with most of Nolan's movies- a lot of its staying power is in the musical score.

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Re: Dunkirk

Post by warriorant » 27 Jul 2018 19:19

I thought this movie was rubbish :oops: . The scenes were poorly acted & poorly shot :x The feel was wrong, modern day actors just don't cut it for me. Give me John Mills any day. The scene with out of fuel Spitty shooting down a bomber was just plain stupid. Same as Fury, loads of potential and just not delivering. I still watch the old B & W films which are by far the best.
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